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>> Yes coding is a different language than most people are used to speaking, but it isn't as difficult as some like to make it look. I'm afraid that You are mi

by v-erne 4y ago

>> Yes coding is a different language than most people are used to speaking, but it isn't as difficult as some like to make it look. I'm afraid that You are mistaken - literally no one tries to make the coding (or rather software development because coding is only one step of it) more difficult than it is. The thing that You missing is that the language of coding is like no other because the receiver of ot is different. There is no human on the other side (lets ignore collaborative nature of bigger projects for the sake of simplicity). The computer will only do EXACTLY what You ask him to do. Nothing more and nothing less. And this is key to understanding where most of the complexitu comes from - most of us do not have to ability to speak precisly and completly. We are mostly able to bubble about the things that are somehow similar to things that we think we need.

Irongirl1 4y ago
"because every time I have a conversation with someone techie it causes steam to leave my ears and raises my blood pressure 100 points."
- v-erne 4y ago
  This is not an argument, just description of your immaturity (defined as a lack of control of emotions). You are not going to get far if you are not willing to try to understand the other side and adapt. I am able to talk with all kind of people and believe that at least trying to get into shoes of other person is the key to beneficial cooperation. Without it we are risking conflict escalation. And don't get me wrong - I completely understand where Your frustration is coming from (I had my fair share of introvert programmers to deal with) but I always try to not get overly emotional, and with a little bit of self control this can be done. Just don't expect that the other side will read You mind if You are not willing to read their.
  - Irongirl1 4y ago
    Yes, I really enjoy being insulted by perfect strangers on the interwebs. It definitely motivates me to continue conversations. /s Please don't ever respond to anything I write again. I just can't handle it./s
    - v-erne 4y ago
      >> It definitely motivates me to continue conversations So get a thicker skin? >> Yes, I really enjoy being insulted by perfect strangers on the interwebs. Ok, your loss. I will give You a little secret about communication with people in IT (or rather STEM in general). The things that we are saying more often than not are not intended as an insult but only as an opinion, statement or diagnosis. Don't mistake directness for rudeness.
      - Irongirl1 4y ago
        Yep, I'm probably going to take advice from you. And truly I care more about the curation aspects of HN than I do about having conversations with tech people. I remain convinced that for the most part it is a colossal waste of time. Very little listening happens.....

by v-erne 4y ago

Irongirl1 4y ago

"because every time I have a conversation with someone techie it causes steam to leave my ears and raises my blood pressure 100 points."

v-erne 4y ago
This is not an argument, just description of your immaturity (defined as a lack of control of emotions). You are not going to get far if you are not willing to try to understand the other side and adapt. I am able to talk with all kind of people and believe that at least trying to get into shoes of other person is the key to beneficial cooperation. Without it we are risking conflict escalation. And don't get me wrong - I completely understand where Your frustration is coming from (I had my fair share of introvert programmers to deal with) but I always try to not get overly emotional, and with a little bit of self control this can be done. Just don't expect that the other side will read You mind if You are not willing to read their.
- Irongirl1 4y ago
  Yes, I really enjoy being insulted by perfect strangers on the interwebs. It definitely motivates me to continue conversations. /s Please don't ever respond to anything I write again. I just can't handle it./s
  - v-erne 4y ago
    >> It definitely motivates me to continue conversations So get a thicker skin? >> Yes, I really enjoy being insulted by perfect strangers on the interwebs. Ok, your loss. I will give You a little secret about communication with people in IT (or rather STEM in general). The things that we are saying more often than not are not intended as an insult but only as an opinion, statement or diagnosis. Don't mistake directness for rudeness.
    - Irongirl1 4y ago
      Yep, I'm probably going to take advice from you. And truly I care more about the curation aspects of HN than I do about having conversations with tech people. I remain convinced that for the most part it is a colossal waste of time. Very little listening happens.....