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How much money has Tom Brady or Jassy made for the patriots/Amazon due to their leadership? If they brought 500M then 25M seems fair.

krainboltgreene 4y ago
Tom Brady did actual work for his team, a CEO does not do $500M worth of work. If there were no employees other than the CEO then the $500M doesn't get made.
- weezin 4y ago
  > CEO does not do $500M worth of work The decision to make AWS created 100s of billions of dollars of value. CEO decisions can make and break companies. > If there were no employees other than the CEO then the $500M doesn't get made. Right, and if Tom Brady doesn't have receivers to throw to he doesn't win any super bowls. It is the leadership that can create massive amounts of value.
  - krainboltgreene 4y ago
    > The decision to make AWS created 100s of billions of dollars of value I can make decisions to create something all day, none of it makes any money unless effort is put into it's creation. Product and engineering and design made AWS which allowed the company to make billions. The marketing team after that.
    - weezin 4y ago
      And who was leading that effort? When executing, hard decisions get propagated to the top and leaders like Jassy have to make the toughest decisions that result in moving the trajectory of the company/project. This can create or destroy a lot of value.
      - krainboltgreene 4y ago
        At best the project managers and team leads. No decision is worth this much money when it comes at the expense of paying the people for their labour.
- mehphp 4y ago
  He isn't being paid for his work (which I assume you are conflating with labor); he is being paid for the perceived value he can bring to the company. His decision-making can absolutely influence the bottom line far more than any single Amazon warehouse worker could. Now, I'm not saying that warehouse workers are worthless or should be treated like shit, far from it, but if Amazon doesn't pay him this much, some other corporation will. That's the free market.
  - krainboltgreene 4y ago
    > he is being paid for the perceived value he can bring to the company. Regardless of if he's a magician or not, we're talking about work. > His decision-making can absolutely influence the bottom line far more than any single Amazon warehouse worker could. I decided to have coffee this morning, but if I don't put in a doordash order and there's no barista, then I don't get to have coffee.
bumby 4y ago
Is there a consensus on the value of leadership? I know there is some research for and against the idea that executive leadership has a meaningful impact on value creation.

krainboltgreene 4y ago

Tom Brady did actual work for his team, a CEO does not do $500M worth of work. If there were no employees other than the CEO then the $500M doesn't get made.

weezin 4y ago
> CEO does not do $500M worth of work The decision to make AWS created 100s of billions of dollars of value. CEO decisions can make and break companies. > If there were no employees other than the CEO then the $500M doesn't get made. Right, and if Tom Brady doesn't have receivers to throw to he doesn't win any super bowls. It is the leadership that can create massive amounts of value.
- krainboltgreene 4y ago
  > The decision to make AWS created 100s of billions of dollars of value I can make decisions to create something all day, none of it makes any money unless effort is put into it's creation. Product and engineering and design made AWS which allowed the company to make billions. The marketing team after that.
  - weezin 4y ago
    And who was leading that effort? When executing, hard decisions get propagated to the top and leaders like Jassy have to make the toughest decisions that result in moving the trajectory of the company/project. This can create or destroy a lot of value.
    - krainboltgreene 4y ago
      At best the project managers and team leads. No decision is worth this much money when it comes at the expense of paying the people for their labour.
mehphp 4y ago
He isn't being paid for his work (which I assume you are conflating with labor); he is being paid for the perceived value he can bring to the company. His decision-making can absolutely influence the bottom line far more than any single Amazon warehouse worker could. Now, I'm not saying that warehouse workers are worthless or should be treated like shit, far from it, but if Amazon doesn't pay him this much, some other corporation will. That's the free market.
- krainboltgreene 4y ago
  > he is being paid for the perceived value he can bring to the company. Regardless of if he's a magician or not, we're talking about work. > His decision-making can absolutely influence the bottom line far more than any single Amazon warehouse worker could. I decided to have coffee this morning, but if I don't put in a doordash order and there's no barista, then I don't get to have coffee.

bumby 4y ago

Is there a consensus on the value of leadership? I know there is some research for and against the idea that executive leadership has a meaningful impact on value creation.