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Somehow this doesn't surprise me, they still want to be able to spam you with offers (I legit got a text today from Martha and Marley, I have not used them for

Somehow this doesn't surprise me, they still want to be able to spam you with offers (I legit got a text today from Martha and Marley, I have not used them for 3+ years) and possibly sell your data to make more money. It does bring up an interesting idea, how many people use unique emails for each company to track spam. If something like that was possible for shipped goods (wouldn't work well for food but that is the exception). I would gladly add a couple days of transit time and pay a bit to catch the companies selling my information.

0x0000000 4y ago
If you don't need to use the second line for "Street Address", you might be able to repurpose it and put in a unique identifier for each entity you conduct business with. Might depend on your mail carrier being OK with putting a letter to "Apt 41723" in the only mailbox at the primary address.
- jgalt212 4y ago
  Does the USPS Address Verification API reject such "modifications"? https://www.usps.com/business/web-tools-apis/ https://www.usps.com/business/web-tools-apis/
  - yurishimo 4y ago
    The OP linked the German version of hello fresh so likely moot.
  - gruez 4y ago
    Maybe. On one hand USPS might have a database of which buildings are multi-family homes and reject stuff like "unit 123" if it's not a multi-family/tenant building. However, I've also seen letters addressed to "basement" (for someone who's renting out the basement of a single family home) which seem to arrive fine so maybe they're not doing too aggressive filtering.
mrsuprawsm 4y ago
>It does bring up an interesting idea, how many people use unique emails for each company to track spam Probably not a lot, but Apple's "Hide my Email" feature is now native to iOS and should in theory make this fairly easy to do. I do this _occasionally_ when signing up for new sites.
- nerdjon 4y ago
  I was very happy when that was added, I have started using it for anything I sign up for. Doesn't fix everything that already has my email, but I am hoping it helps to expose companies that sell data more. It is hard to hide behind "well maybe you accidentally did it" when I don't think there is a way on iOS to use the same email in multiple places?
  - lancesells 4y ago
    I've gotten to the point where signing up for anything is rare. I used to try out all types of tools to see if they help me work, or sign up for the "10% discount" at some new store. But then you start to realize what happens to your info. If I buy running shorts from Nike I'll start getting junk mail from running and fitness brands to my home address. If I back something on Kickstarter I get spam coming from other Kickstarter campaigns. Lately I've started reading privacy policies more than signing up. Here's something from Pelotons policy on what they collect: > Voice and Likeness: Your visual image, likeness and voice recording (e.g., via photographs, video and/or CCTV) if you visit our studios and/or showrooms or participate in live studio classes. Additionally, Peloton fitness equipment and the Peloton App may contain a camera, microphone and voice control features. These features are in use only when activated by you, for example, to use the Peloton Guide, to take a Peloton user profile photo or to initiate or accept a video chat from another user and, for usage of the Peloton App, any device settings that you have activated.
- SpikeDad 4y ago
  I had an online place (I can't recall which) that flagged a Hide My Email as invalid. That pissed me off and I left that site immediately.
prirun 4y ago
You could probably add something like #23 to the end of your street address and still get it. For gmail and fastmail, you can use jim+xyz@gmail.com and change the xyz for every new email signup.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  I do that for gmail, but I've discovered that many sites will claim that xxx+yyy@gmail.com is not a valid email. Also it would be very easy for a scummy site to just remove the +yyy part and the rest will still be a valid gmail address.
SpikeDad 4y ago
Plus selling addresses to other food services is probably as valuable as spamming themselves.
iRomain 4y ago
I have been using catch-all for years! I have literally just worked on a mini project to automate it for all my family members with forwardemail.net using Terraform: https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra Catch-all are working but still WIP for the primary domain part due to a bug with the Google workspace provider. https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra/issues/2 https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra/issues/2

0x0000000 4y ago

If you don't need to use the second line for "Street Address", you might be able to repurpose it and put in a unique identifier for each entity you conduct business with. Might depend on your mail carrier being OK with putting a letter to "Apt 41723" in the only mailbox at the primary address.

jgalt212 4y ago
Does the USPS Address Verification API reject such "modifications"? https://www.usps.com/business/web-tools-apis/ https://www.usps.com/business/web-tools-apis/
- yurishimo 4y ago
  The OP linked the German version of hello fresh so likely moot.
- gruez 4y ago
  Maybe. On one hand USPS might have a database of which buildings are multi-family homes and reject stuff like "unit 123" if it's not a multi-family/tenant building. However, I've also seen letters addressed to "basement" (for someone who's renting out the basement of a single family home) which seem to arrive fine so maybe they're not doing too aggressive filtering.

mrsuprawsm 4y ago

>It does bring up an interesting idea, how many people use unique emails for each company to track spam Probably not a lot, but Apple's "Hide my Email" feature is now native to iOS and should in theory make this fairly easy to do. I do this _occasionally_ when signing up for new sites.

nerdjon 4y ago
I was very happy when that was added, I have started using it for anything I sign up for. Doesn't fix everything that already has my email, but I am hoping it helps to expose companies that sell data more. It is hard to hide behind "well maybe you accidentally did it" when I don't think there is a way on iOS to use the same email in multiple places?
- lancesells 4y ago
  I've gotten to the point where signing up for anything is rare. I used to try out all types of tools to see if they help me work, or sign up for the "10% discount" at some new store. But then you start to realize what happens to your info. If I buy running shorts from Nike I'll start getting junk mail from running and fitness brands to my home address. If I back something on Kickstarter I get spam coming from other Kickstarter campaigns. Lately I've started reading privacy policies more than signing up. Here's something from Pelotons policy on what they collect: > Voice and Likeness: Your visual image, likeness and voice recording (e.g., via photographs, video and/or CCTV) if you visit our studios and/or showrooms or participate in live studio classes. Additionally, Peloton fitness equipment and the Peloton App may contain a camera, microphone and voice control features. These features are in use only when activated by you, for example, to use the Peloton Guide, to take a Peloton user profile photo or to initiate or accept a video chat from another user and, for usage of the Peloton App, any device settings that you have activated.
SpikeDad 4y ago
I had an online place (I can't recall which) that flagged a Hide My Email as invalid. That pissed me off and I left that site immediately.

prirun 4y ago

You could probably add something like #23 to the end of your street address and still get it. For gmail and fastmail, you can use jim+xyz@gmail.com and change the xyz for every new email signup.

brokenmachine 4y ago
I do that for gmail, but I've discovered that many sites will claim that xxx+yyy@gmail.com is not a valid email. Also it would be very easy for a scummy site to just remove the +yyy part and the rest will still be a valid gmail address.

SpikeDad 4y ago

Plus selling addresses to other food services is probably as valuable as spamming themselves.

iRomain 4y ago

I have been using catch-all for years! I have literally just worked on a mini project to automate it for all my family members with forwardemail.net using Terraform: https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra Catch-all are working but still WIP for the primary domain part due to a bug with the Google workspace provider. https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra/issues/2 https://github.com/politician/barissat-infra/issues/2