Groupon is a classic example: they have over 1,600 salespeople in the company. This number represents 75% of the total Groupon staff (http://www.centernetworks.

Groupon is a classic example: they have over 1,600 salespeople in the company. This number represents 75% of the total Groupon staff (http://www.centernetworks.com/groupon-roundup http://www.centernetworks.com/groupon-roundup) I don't think they are particularly innovative. Low barriers of entry. It's just about how fast you can scale and yet it made it to the IPO stage. Few startups ever get to see that. Thus (with all do respect) I disagree with Jobs that a tech startup run by a salesman is doomed (although some might argue groupon is not really considered "techy"). I think a startup needs a good mix of a hacker, a hustler and a designer. Jobs was all 3 and that's what made Apple work.