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I'm not sure what sort of conclusion you're trying to make by looking at traceroute data. Every website hosted on Azure is going to show this similar network pa

I'm not sure what sort of conclusion you're trying to make by looking at traceroute data. Every website hosted on Azure is going to show this similar network path. It's known that DDG uses Azure and other Microsoft services. They also happen to have a contractual agreement to use Bing's search results. That doesn't somehow mean DDG is owned or operated by Microsoft or in any way gathering the same data as if you were to just go to bing.com This will show you the exact same type of data. Are you saying Southern New Hampshire University is the same as Bing? mtr -t -c 3 -w snhu.edu HOST: mbp Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 7.|-- be-122-0.ibr02.ch4.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 3 49.2 50.1 46.8 54.3 3.8 8.|-- be-9-0.ibr02.atl31.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 3 53.4 55.6 52.4 61.0 4.7 9.|-- be-8-0.ibr04.bn6.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 3 56.5 54.2 51.8 56.5 2.3 10.|-- be-12-0.ibr04.bl7.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 3 56.3 55.7 50.2 60.7 5.3 11.|-- ae162-0.icr02.bl7.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 3 56.9 53.8 49.8 56.9 3.6 12.|-- ??? 100.0 3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

0daystock 4y ago
> It's known that DDG uses Azure and other Microsoft services. Known to whom? Certainly not to most users who think they're getting privacy from "Big Tech" by using DDG, yet are ironically getting the complete opposite.
- treesknees 4y ago
  That's an incorrect assumption on your part. DDG allows you to execute search queries without associating those queries or results with any of your personally identifiable information or accounts. Its claim is to provide private search. No part of their mission claims to never use "Big Tech" companies for infrastructure, transport, etc. Again I'll come back to my example. Do you think that SNHU being hosted on Azure means Microsoft just gets free access to all of their grades, research data, user/student/faculty information, PII, logs, to use for their own business purposes? If that's what you believe is happening, then this applies to every company who uses any public cloud provider. Seriously, I'd love more proof or sources for these claims that Microsoft (or any company) is using its position as a cloud provider to harvest information from private companies. Otherwise it's nothing more than a conspiracy theory driven by traceroute output, thrown together with misinformed news articles about business contracts.

0daystock 4y ago

> It's known that DDG uses Azure and other Microsoft services. Known to whom? Certainly not to most users who think they're getting privacy from "Big Tech" by using DDG, yet are ironically getting the complete opposite.

treesknees 4y ago
That's an incorrect assumption on your part. DDG allows you to execute search queries without associating those queries or results with any of your personally identifiable information or accounts. Its claim is to provide private search. No part of their mission claims to never use "Big Tech" companies for infrastructure, transport, etc. Again I'll come back to my example. Do you think that SNHU being hosted on Azure means Microsoft just gets free access to all of their grades, research data, user/student/faculty information, PII, logs, to use for their own business purposes? If that's what you believe is happening, then this applies to every company who uses any public cloud provider. Seriously, I'd love more proof or sources for these claims that Microsoft (or any company) is using its position as a cloud provider to harvest information from private companies. Otherwise it's nothing more than a conspiracy theory driven by traceroute output, thrown together with misinformed news articles about business contracts.