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They have this VMware Tanzu platform which is like Red Hat Openshift. A heavily customized application packaging , deployment management solution on top of Kube

by geodel 4y ago

They have this VMware Tanzu platform which is like Red Hat Openshift. A heavily customized application packaging , deployment management solution on top of Kubernetes. It can be deployed on any cloud and on-prem DCs. So kinda multi cloud bet. They are selling it in a big way.

awild 4y ago
They also offer tanzu as on prem cluster where you can somehow use kubernetes to provision kubernetes virtualised kubernetes clusters.
- larntz 4y ago
  It uses cluster-api to provision clusters. It's very cool and isn't a VMware thing. It's open source, and you can easily run it on regular k8s clusters. https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/ https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/
  - bogomipz 4y ago
    Well, Cluster API depends on underlying providers and the VMWare provider is definitely a VMWare thing as it's maintained by them: https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/cluster-api-provider-vsphere https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/cluster-api-provider-vsph...
  - vkat 4y ago
    Yes it is a community project but VMware engineers play a big part in maintaining as it is foundational to the kubernetes product that VMware sells. Open source does not mean it runs by itself.
awill 4y ago
What does "They are selling it in a big way" mean? I've never heard of it, and neither have any of the software engineers who are next to me at the office. RedHat OpenShift also bombed. They had a great start 11 years ago, but then didn't innovate, and worse, released a 2.0 that wasn't backward compatible. They used the 2.0 release as an excuse to kick off all free plans. What a joke. There's a reason Red Hat isn't a leader in Cloud.
- Turbots 4y ago
- parasubvert 4y ago
  They also released a 3.0 and 4.0 of OpenShift that weren't backwards compatible :-) Yet OpenShift is making bank. You'd be surprised how much money they make on AWS, Azure, and Google.
- emptysongglass 4y ago
  OpenShift is fantastic and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to any medium sized startup and up. I run it in my closet. Most medium sized startups end up building out an OpenShift-like K8s but they use 6 months to a year plus to do it. Upgrades within major versions are totally painless, one-click affairs.
- RajT88 4y ago
  I have customers running Tanzu. It is slick, but niche. Incredibly rock solid - in ways K8S is not - and you pay for it. It is on its way out as a product.
  - nunez 4y ago
    Tanzu is a loaded term :) Are you talking about TAS (ex PCF) or TKG?
    - RajT88 4y ago
      PCF
      - nunez 4y ago
        i wouldn't say it's on its way out. it's still in active development and very much supported
  - bogomipz 4y ago
    Why is it on its way out as a product? Is it simply not making money?

by geodel 4y ago

awild 4y ago

They also offer tanzu as on prem cluster where you can somehow use kubernetes to provision kubernetes virtualised kubernetes clusters.

larntz 4y ago
It uses cluster-api to provision clusters. It's very cool and isn't a VMware thing. It's open source, and you can easily run it on regular k8s clusters. https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/ https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/
- bogomipz 4y ago
  Well, Cluster API depends on underlying providers and the VMWare provider is definitely a VMWare thing as it's maintained by them: https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/cluster-api-provider-vsphere https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/cluster-api-provider-vsph...
- vkat 4y ago
  Yes it is a community project but VMware engineers play a big part in maintaining as it is foundational to the kubernetes product that VMware sells. Open source does not mean it runs by itself.

awill 4y ago

What does "They are selling it in a big way" mean? I've never heard of it, and neither have any of the software engineers who are next to me at the office. RedHat OpenShift also bombed. They had a great start 11 years ago, but then didn't innovate, and worse, released a 2.0 that wasn't backward compatible. They used the 2.0 release as an excuse to kick off all free plans. What a joke. There's a reason Red Hat isn't a leader in Cloud.

Turbots 4y ago
parasubvert 4y ago
They also released a 3.0 and 4.0 of OpenShift that weren't backwards compatible :-) Yet OpenShift is making bank. You'd be surprised how much money they make on AWS, Azure, and Google.
emptysongglass 4y ago
OpenShift is fantastic and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to any medium sized startup and up. I run it in my closet. Most medium sized startups end up building out an OpenShift-like K8s but they use 6 months to a year plus to do it. Upgrades within major versions are totally painless, one-click affairs.
RajT88 4y ago
I have customers running Tanzu. It is slick, but niche. Incredibly rock solid - in ways K8S is not - and you pay for it. It is on its way out as a product.
- nunez 4y ago
  Tanzu is a loaded term :) Are you talking about TAS (ex PCF) or TKG?
  - RajT88 4y ago
    PCF
    - nunez 4y ago
      i wouldn't say it's on its way out. it's still in active development and very much supported
- bogomipz 4y ago
  Why is it on its way out as a product? Is it simply not making money?