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What I don't understand is why Apple cannot simply make this a toggle option in settings somewhere. No, it has to work one way and one way only...

widowlark 4y ago
Isn't that how Apple operates with everything in every instance?
- kergonath 4y ago
  There are plenty of boxes to check or uncheck in the system preferences, so no, this is not how “Apple operates with everything in every instance”.
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    Compare it to other OSes and you will see that 'plenty' is not actually a lot in this case. I really was thrilled when I finally moved over to KDE from macOS. Over the years they had forced a number of changes I was really unhappy with. Like the inability to put virtual desktops in a grid, among others, that was pulled somewhere around 10.9 or so. It turned out that KDE just offers this and most of my other annoyances with options. You want them in a line, you want them in a grid? Whatever you please. Also, choose what kind of transition, how you'd like to identify which one is active, etc etc. Everything can be configured. You can even name them if you like. It's really amazing being able to set everything up the way I need it again. Apple had an OK baseline for me around the Tiger/Lion era, but after this they started going downhill. Launchpad, Mission Control etc were all regressions from the previous options like Expose. Also moving to ever lower-density UIs that mimic mobile devices (without actually offering touch support that necessitates bigger buttons) really annoyed me. Very happy with the choice and the Qt-based FOSS software is similarly better than Apple's for the same reasons. Many configuration options and choices.
    - kergonath 4y ago
      > Compare it to other OSes and you will see that 'plenty' is not actually a lot in this case. "Plenty" in my case is "more than I care about" (plus, there are other things you can set up using the command line). The assertion in the OP twas that there was none whatsoever, though.
thatjoeoverthr 4y ago
There’s be two systems to maintain. But the flags aren’t that valuable, and they aren’t needed for any sort of backwards compatibility.

widowlark 4y ago

Isn't that how Apple operates with everything in every instance?

kergonath 4y ago
There are plenty of boxes to check or uncheck in the system preferences, so no, this is not how “Apple operates with everything in every instance”.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  Compare it to other OSes and you will see that 'plenty' is not actually a lot in this case. I really was thrilled when I finally moved over to KDE from macOS. Over the years they had forced a number of changes I was really unhappy with. Like the inability to put virtual desktops in a grid, among others, that was pulled somewhere around 10.9 or so. It turned out that KDE just offers this and most of my other annoyances with options. You want them in a line, you want them in a grid? Whatever you please. Also, choose what kind of transition, how you'd like to identify which one is active, etc etc. Everything can be configured. You can even name them if you like. It's really amazing being able to set everything up the way I need it again. Apple had an OK baseline for me around the Tiger/Lion era, but after this they started going downhill. Launchpad, Mission Control etc were all regressions from the previous options like Expose. Also moving to ever lower-density UIs that mimic mobile devices (without actually offering touch support that necessitates bigger buttons) really annoyed me. Very happy with the choice and the Qt-based FOSS software is similarly better than Apple's for the same reasons. Many configuration options and choices.
  - kergonath 4y ago
    > Compare it to other OSes and you will see that 'plenty' is not actually a lot in this case. "Plenty" in my case is "more than I care about" (plus, there are other things you can set up using the command line). The assertion in the OP twas that there was none whatsoever, though.

thatjoeoverthr 4y ago

There’s be two systems to maintain. But the flags aren’t that valuable, and they aren’t needed for any sort of backwards compatibility.