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> • Universal background checks; Break that one down. Universal for everyone, or just those who want to buy a gun? If I buy a gun because I pass the backgroun

by dgfitz 4y ago

> • Universal background checks; Break that one down. Universal for everyone, or just those who want to buy a gun? If I buy a gun because I pass the background check, and then snap and shoot up my place of employ 4 years later, what good was the background check? Who pays for the background check? Who does the background check? What do they check? HIPPA laws would eliminate anything health/medical related. Do they comb all the discoverable social media accounts? Are we just checking criminal history? Should a background check be re-done every 2, 3, 5, n years? I like the idea, but I've been chewing on this problem for the past few days and I don't think background checks would be as simple or effective as we would all like them to be. This is not an argument against background checks in that I think they're a bad idea. I don't think they would do much.

pnutjam 4y ago
This is a solved problem, other countries do good background checks by requiring a reason for gun ownership. Collecting (maybe you can't buy as much ammo), range club (they need to vouch for you and you buy ammo at the range), hunting (you have a subset of hunting rifles allowed), self-defense (again, how much ammo do you need for self defense). I'd like to see the Feds designate all schools crime as federal crimes since they interfere with the civil rights of students. Then make school shootings automatic death penalty, unauthorized guns would have a hefty sentence like they did with drug dealers.
- dgfitz 4y ago
  You mean something like this?: https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/RegulatedFirearmPurchases.aspx https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvesti... Sure hasn't worked in Baltimore.
  - pnutjam 4y ago
    Yellow flag, chetXrry picking on the field. Please tell me what Uvalde, TX has in common with Baltimore.
    - dgfitz 4y ago
      15x more people are killed each year in Baltimore than Uvalde. What happened was tragic there is no question, but the fact that the rest of the country is numb to the murder rates of Baltimore, Chicago, etc, makes me quite sad.
      - pnutjam 4y ago
karmelapple 4y ago
Understand that you don't think they'll do much, but states that have that, along with the two other items, have witnessed roughly 30% fewer gun homicides. If we test this out in more places, we can have better evidence than, say, what you or myself think are a good or bad idea. :)

by dgfitz 4y ago

pnutjam 4y ago

This is a solved problem, other countries do good background checks by requiring a reason for gun ownership. Collecting (maybe you can't buy as much ammo), range club (they need to vouch for you and you buy ammo at the range), hunting (you have a subset of hunting rifles allowed), self-defense (again, how much ammo do you need for self defense). I'd like to see the Feds designate all schools crime as federal crimes since they interfere with the civil rights of students. Then make school shootings automatic death penalty, unauthorized guns would have a hefty sentence like they did with drug dealers.

dgfitz 4y ago
You mean something like this?: https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/RegulatedFirearmPurchases.aspx https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvesti... Sure hasn't worked in Baltimore.
- pnutjam 4y ago
  Yellow flag, chetXrry picking on the field. Please tell me what Uvalde, TX has in common with Baltimore.
  - dgfitz 4y ago
    15x more people are killed each year in Baltimore than Uvalde. What happened was tragic there is no question, but the fact that the rest of the country is numb to the murder rates of Baltimore, Chicago, etc, makes me quite sad.
    - pnutjam 4y ago

karmelapple 4y ago

Understand that you don't think they'll do much, but states that have that, along with the two other items, have witnessed roughly 30% fewer gun homicides. If we test this out in more places, we can have better evidence than, say, what you or myself think are a good or bad idea. :)