100% - I want Lucid & Rivian to succeed, I just don't want to spend 80-150K to be their beta tester. People vastly under estimate how hard scaling is. Tesla w

100% - I want Lucid & Rivian to succeed, I just don't want to spend 80-150K to be their beta tester. People vastly under estimate how hard scaling is. Tesla was producing ~5-10K cars for many years before they hit the 100K level with the Model 3. It could be 5 years for Lucid & Rivian to become regularly available, serviceable car brands like Tesla just started to become in say 2019 or so. I personally don't think anyone should be taking on a loan / spending any large % of their income buying from them and planning for them to be your primary vehicle. They are sufficiently low volume & high risk to remain rich man toys for a while! Even when I bought in 2018 it felt a bit unsteady, with plenty of valid rumors they were going to fold.. including Musk later saying they were days away from bankruptcy during the Model 3 ramp up!