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South Africa has a pretty heterogeneous population from an ethnicity perspective and they are very protective of locals when it comes to jobs (including some fr

by mc32 4y ago

South Africa has a pretty heterogeneous population from an ethnicity perspective and they are very protective of locals when it comes to jobs (including some frequent rioting against foreigners) If you’re from up north, i.e. not southern Africa then you will most likely suffer discrimination. So yes, it’s not a particularly Dutch disease, it happens everywhere, including for example Mexico where Mexicans are preferred over foreigners in the great majority of jobs. The US is more an exception to this where we’re welcoming of foreigners by and large —with exceptions of course.

tomrod 4y ago
There are several places in the world welcoming of foreigners. The US is not particularly welcoming on an absolute scale due to draconian immigration processes and the rise of an authoritarian political party.
- mc32 4y ago
  Yes Singapore and New Zealand but there are barriers to entry for regular folk.
  - throwaway2037 4y ago
    Germany too! I've heard multiple first-hand accounts from highly educated people who immigrated to Germany for work. They enjoy the high quality of life and feel welcomed in their community.
- BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
  > The US is not particularly welcoming on an absolute scale due to draconian immigration processes and the rise of an authoritarian political party. Compared to most other developed countries, The United States has a surprisingly permissive immigration policy. Have you seen the requirements to immigrate legally to a country like Switzerland, Australia, Japan, or Israel? The trouble is that so many people want to immigrate to the US - and there’s no feasible way to just let everyone in - the waitlist is massive. We even have a lottery system, where most other nations demand an above average net worth and some kind of in-demand skill. Despite all of this, to some it seems “draconian” that we don’t just rubber stamp everyone who shows up wanting to get in. >” the rise of an authoritarian political party.” I know what you’re alluding to, but both the Republican and Democratic parties have been around since the 1800’s. And, I gaurantee you their modern view on immigration is far more welcoming than how these parties treated immigration in the past.
- rs999gti 4y ago
  > The US is not particularly welcoming on an absolute scale due to draconian immigration processes and the rise of an authoritarian political party. However, the US is the only country I have seen where the integrated immigrants refer to themselves as Americans and are proud to be Americans almost nationalistically. When I go over to Canada, the non-American immigrants, refer to themselves as Canadian-X, e.g. Canadian-Chinese, Canadian-Pakistani, Canadian-Cameroonian, etc.

by mc32 4y ago

tomrod 4y ago

There are several places in the world welcoming of foreigners. The US is not particularly welcoming on an absolute scale due to draconian immigration processes and the rise of an authoritarian political party.

mc32 4y ago
Yes Singapore and New Zealand but there are barriers to entry for regular folk.
- throwaway2037 4y ago
  Germany too! I've heard multiple first-hand accounts from highly educated people who immigrated to Germany for work. They enjoy the high quality of life and feel welcomed in their community.
BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
> The US is not particularly welcoming on an absolute scale due to draconian immigration processes and the rise of an authoritarian political party. Compared to most other developed countries, The United States has a surprisingly permissive immigration policy. Have you seen the requirements to immigrate legally to a country like Switzerland, Australia, Japan, or Israel? The trouble is that so many people want to immigrate to the US - and there’s no feasible way to just let everyone in - the waitlist is massive. We even have a lottery system, where most other nations demand an above average net worth and some kind of in-demand skill. Despite all of this, to some it seems “draconian” that we don’t just rubber stamp everyone who shows up wanting to get in. >” the rise of an authoritarian political party.” I know what you’re alluding to, but both the Republican and Democratic parties have been around since the 1800’s. And, I gaurantee you their modern view on immigration is far more welcoming than how these parties treated immigration in the past.
rs999gti 4y ago
> The US is not particularly welcoming on an absolute scale due to draconian immigration processes and the rise of an authoritarian political party. However, the US is the only country I have seen where the integrated immigrants refer to themselves as Americans and are proud to be Americans almost nationalistically. When I go over to Canada, the non-American immigrants, refer to themselves as Canadian-X, e.g. Canadian-Chinese, Canadian-Pakistani, Canadian-Cameroonian, etc.