My point is simply that people haul out the "cyclists don't stop at stop signs" argument, in a selective way, without applying it to all traffic rules that are

My point is simply that people haul out the "cyclists don't stop at stop signs" argument, in a selective way, without applying it to all traffic rules that are targeted at safety. You're right, the "65 in a 60" was a rhetorical device. I used it, of course, because it's a law that so many people break. But seriously, rhetorical devices aside: speeding in residential districts is a real problem for pedestrian (and driver, and cyclist) safety. And I think that's pretty clear. Why don't we talk about how consistently cyclists obey posted speed limits? ;-)