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What's it going to take to train this on porn? This is something that can be crowdfunded. Look deepnude is a thing and somebody is making money off it: https:/

What's it going to take to train this on porn? This is something that can be crowdfunded. Look deepnude is a thing and somebody is making money off it: https://app.deepnude.cc/upload https://app.deepnude.cc/upload

DeathArrow 4y ago
And what is going to take to generate videos, not pictures?
- tomatowurst 4y ago
  To run we must learn to walk first. To walk we must learn to be erect. To be erect we must master crawling. I don't think the leap is too crazy if we are talking short moving pictures without sound. However, when sound gets involved, this is where it would become very tricky.
  - comex 4y ago
  - pmoriarty 4y ago
    "when sound gets involved, this is where it would become very tricky" I don't think a neural net would have much trouble generating moans in sync to the motion. Why pay humans for all that fake moaning when an AI could do it?
    - tomatowurst 4y ago
      actually you are right, sound generation here wouldn't be as hard as I originally thought.
- a2800276 4y ago
  Maybe if you study hard enough, one day you'll have what it takes to make a real girl. https://youtu.be/9qd04u2Yj44 https://youtu.be/9qd04u2Yj44
hackernewds 4y ago
They specifically mention in the Images documentation that one reason they haven't publicized this yet is due to porn or deep fakes risk. Assuming this works very well already.
londons_explore 4y ago
This tech is actually pretty bad at human faces - it all appears unnatural and distorted. You get things like the occasional extra earlobe...
- Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
  Human faces were excluded on purpose from the DALL-E 2 training set in order to prevent misuse. I suppose the same will be the case here (or at least, in public-facing versions of the models). Given how it renders dog faces, I don't see why it wouldn't be good at human faces too, if trained for it.
- jstummbillig 4y ago
  While the "it will never do as well as humans at this one thing I feel strongly about" bias is still a common one, even on hn, at this point I am fairly certain that we will soon all have to live with the fact that we are no longer all that special in regards to, well, absolutely everything. One of my more interesting realisations over this development is that being human is apparently a religion to a lot of otherwise secular humans.
  - pmoriarty 4y ago
    "we are no longer all that special in regards to, well, absolutely everything" If/when general AI comes about, maybe so. Until then all we've got are a bunch of highly specialized tools/helpers/slaves that may be good (in some sense) at one thing and awful at pretty much everything else. You could argue that humans themselves are an ensemble of such highly specialized parts that are more than the sum of their parts in some ineffable way that's more of a "we know it when we see it" than something that's formalizable. Machines/computers lack that... so far.
chirau 4y ago
Lol. Not the same thing obviously but your question just reminded me of @robotpornaddict, a neural net that watches porn and tries to describe what it sees. https://twitter.com/robotpornaddict https://twitter.com/robotpornaddict
porn_rec_throw 4y ago
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29athrowaway 4y ago
How can this be the most upvoted comment? What you describe is already illegal on many jurisdictions.
- lajamerr 4y ago
  Which part is illegal? Are you talking about porn? Or using potential copyright material in an infringing manner? Or perhaps the possibility of "deepfake" porn?
  - 29athrowaway 4y ago
    In some jurisdictions, deepfakes of any kind are treated as a form of defamation. In others, adult deepfakes specifically are illegal.
    - pmoriarty 4y ago
      Which jurisdictions are those?
      - tomatowurst 4y ago
        Korea. Hardcore pornography is also illegal there. Keep in mind this is a country where if you leave a bad review after you get scammed by someone with evidence, it is defamation. So not quite leadership the world needs in this industry. Really sad to see ppl on HN flagging all of my comments on this thread. I mean it's not like you can't find celebrity deepfakes including Kpop. The cat is out of the bag and its only going to get better and faster from here whether some cultures/jurisdictions take offense or not.
        29athrowaway 4y ago
        Also the AI researchers behind these innovations don't want them to be used in this way. And I can't blame them.

DeathArrow 4y ago

And what is going to take to generate videos, not pictures?

tomatowurst 4y ago
To run we must learn to walk first. To walk we must learn to be erect. To be erect we must master crawling. I don't think the leap is too crazy if we are talking short moving pictures without sound. However, when sound gets involved, this is where it would become very tricky.
- comex 4y ago
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  "when sound gets involved, this is where it would become very tricky" I don't think a neural net would have much trouble generating moans in sync to the motion. Why pay humans for all that fake moaning when an AI could do it?
  - tomatowurst 4y ago
    actually you are right, sound generation here wouldn't be as hard as I originally thought.
a2800276 4y ago
Maybe if you study hard enough, one day you'll have what it takes to make a real girl. https://youtu.be/9qd04u2Yj44 https://youtu.be/9qd04u2Yj44

hackernewds 4y ago

They specifically mention in the Images documentation that one reason they haven't publicized this yet is due to porn or deep fakes risk. Assuming this works very well already.

londons_explore 4y ago

This tech is actually pretty bad at human faces - it all appears unnatural and distorted. You get things like the occasional extra earlobe...

Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
Human faces were excluded on purpose from the DALL-E 2 training set in order to prevent misuse. I suppose the same will be the case here (or at least, in public-facing versions of the models). Given how it renders dog faces, I don't see why it wouldn't be good at human faces too, if trained for it.
jstummbillig 4y ago
While the "it will never do as well as humans at this one thing I feel strongly about" bias is still a common one, even on hn, at this point I am fairly certain that we will soon all have to live with the fact that we are no longer all that special in regards to, well, absolutely everything. One of my more interesting realisations over this development is that being human is apparently a religion to a lot of otherwise secular humans.
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  "we are no longer all that special in regards to, well, absolutely everything" If/when general AI comes about, maybe so. Until then all we've got are a bunch of highly specialized tools/helpers/slaves that may be good (in some sense) at one thing and awful at pretty much everything else. You could argue that humans themselves are an ensemble of such highly specialized parts that are more than the sum of their parts in some ineffable way that's more of a "we know it when we see it" than something that's formalizable. Machines/computers lack that... so far.

chirau 4y ago

Lol. Not the same thing obviously but your question just reminded me of @robotpornaddict, a neural net that watches porn and tries to describe what it sees. https://twitter.com/robotpornaddict https://twitter.com/robotpornaddict

porn_rec_throw 4y ago

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29athrowaway 4y ago

How can this be the most upvoted comment? What you describe is already illegal on many jurisdictions.

lajamerr 4y ago
Which part is illegal? Are you talking about porn? Or using potential copyright material in an infringing manner? Or perhaps the possibility of "deepfake" porn?
- 29athrowaway 4y ago
  In some jurisdictions, deepfakes of any kind are treated as a form of defamation. In others, adult deepfakes specifically are illegal.
  - pmoriarty 4y ago
    Which jurisdictions are those?
    - tomatowurst 4y ago
      Korea. Hardcore pornography is also illegal there. Keep in mind this is a country where if you leave a bad review after you get scammed by someone with evidence, it is defamation. So not quite leadership the world needs in this industry. Really sad to see ppl on HN flagging all of my comments on this thread. I mean it's not like you can't find celebrity deepfakes including Kpop. The cat is out of the bag and its only going to get better and faster from here whether some cultures/jurisdictions take offense or not.
      - 29athrowaway 4y ago
        Also the AI researchers behind these innovations don't want them to be used in this way. And I can't blame them.