> I don't think you're arguing in good-faith here. I could say the same about you, but I'll just leave it that I don't think you have thought through your posi

> I don't think you're arguing in good-faith here. I could say the same about you, but I'll just leave it that I don't think you have thought through your position. > They're not criminals until they take action. And nobody calls for banning guns until they take action either. At which point, as you say, they are criminals. So the calls for banning guns every time there's a mass shooting are exactly what I said: calls to punish law-abiding citizens for the misdeeds of criminals.