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>In the public sector of Denmark we suddenly had to view the risk factor of America not remaining a safe harbour for data in the wake of the 2016 election. I h

>In the public sector of Denmark we suddenly had to view the risk factor of America not remaining a safe harbour for data in the wake of the 2016 election. I honestly had to look this up since I did not believe you that Denmark would take until 2016 to realise that keeping public sector data in a foreign country was a bad idea. I mean what, Bush and Snowden didn't convince Denmark that the United States was not a safe place for data? All danish public data getting a nice look over by the NSA didn't alarm anybody? Is business continuity more of a concern amongst the Danish than privacy? The only novel thing I can recall Trump doing is effectively barring Huawei from using things like Google Play Services. Or is Trump simply enough of an asshole that the higher ups got riled up about him? It's so strange to me to think a country would only be concerned about this after Trumps election, to me data sovereignty seems like something one should have been concerned about around the late 90s or early 00's. This entire article just baffles me as if data sovereignty is some bizarre development instead of something you should have been thinking of from the start. Does the government of one country store its personnel files in the warehouses of another country? Seems kind of insanely naive to me.

EnKopVand 4y ago
There is a current “scandal” of sorts where the former minister of justice, and our until very recent chief of military intelligence were suggested arranged and arrested for treason. So far the details of the case are kept from the public, and our secret police even had a talk with all major editors beforehand, but what is know is that it is in part about these people revealing that there was a secret agreement with the NSA to keep surveillance on all Danish citizens in corporation with their Danish counterparts. Only revealed because of the Snowden leaks. So you are sort of right, that our leadership trade away privacy. Similar to how they secretly allowed America to house Nuclear weapons at the Thule base doing the Cold War, and, how we typically participate in American lead wars in some form or another, as well as a range of other things. You call it naive, but it’s quite frankly the reality of being a tiny western country. In a sense you can think of many European countries as you would vassal states to the Roman Empire. It’s obviously more complicated than that, and the comparison is a little daft, but in essence you dance when America tells you to Dance. What happened with Trump wasn’t America electing emperor Nero or Caligula, and then sort of doing business as usual, it was a sign that America might not keep on trucking.
- faeriechangling 4y ago
  I mean I guess this makes sense, but at the end of the day it seems like Denmark lost its confidence in Rome and had to move everything out of Rome anyways, so it also doesn't make sense. Maybe it gave Denmark time to roll its own infrastructure?

EnKopVand 4y ago

There is a current “scandal” of sorts where the former minister of justice, and our until very recent chief of military intelligence were suggested arranged and arrested for treason. So far the details of the case are kept from the public, and our secret police even had a talk with all major editors beforehand, but what is know is that it is in part about these people revealing that there was a secret agreement with the NSA to keep surveillance on all Danish citizens in corporation with their Danish counterparts. Only revealed because of the Snowden leaks. So you are sort of right, that our leadership trade away privacy. Similar to how they secretly allowed America to house Nuclear weapons at the Thule base doing the Cold War, and, how we typically participate in American lead wars in some form or another, as well as a range of other things. You call it naive, but it’s quite frankly the reality of being a tiny western country. In a sense you can think of many European countries as you would vassal states to the Roman Empire. It’s obviously more complicated than that, and the comparison is a little daft, but in essence you dance when America tells you to Dance. What happened with Trump wasn’t America electing emperor Nero or Caligula, and then sort of doing business as usual, it was a sign that America might not keep on trucking.

faeriechangling 4y ago
I mean I guess this makes sense, but at the end of the day it seems like Denmark lost its confidence in Rome and had to move everything out of Rome anyways, so it also doesn't make sense. Maybe it gave Denmark time to roll its own infrastructure?