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We have car control. There are stringent licensing requirements and heavy penalties for breaking the rules. That’s all most people are asking for. Obviously t

We have car control. There are stringent licensing requirements and heavy penalties for breaking the rules. That’s all most people are asking for. Obviously this is the criminals fault. Knowing that doesn’t actually solve anything though. People are looking for solutions.

robswc 4y ago
>There are stringent licensing requirements and heavy penalties for breaking the rules. That’s all most people are asking for. Aren't there already heavy penalties? Have there been any mass shooters that haven't been "adequately" punished? My whole thing is that I do believe that "gun control" would result in less gun related deaths... but it wouldn't stop psychos from killing people. It's been shown time and time again that you don't need a gun to kill 10+ people. I also don't think that we're at the point where we trust our government to the point of surrendering our best/final line of defense. I feel any sort of "gun ban" or "gun control" would be irreversible, certainly irreversible at any point it's needed most.
- maxerickson 4y ago
  The military is going to win the war against tyranny (no matter which side they end up on). "I need my gun so I can get killed while holding it" is a boring argument.
  - robswc 4y ago
    >The military is going to win the war against tyranny Not at all. The idea of armed citizens serves as a deterrent for any tyrannical regime. In what scenario do you see the military successfully occupying or holding control of the country for any significant period of time while the citizens are armed?
innocentoldguy 4y ago
We have gun laws, laws against shooting people, etc. We also have heavy penalties for breaking those laws, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. The issue isn’t a lack of laws, since those clearly exist. I also find your argument disingenuous, since when Democrats talk about “gun control,” it is always in terms of banning/confiscation. I don’t recall any calls to ban SUVs because some dimwit ran over a bunch of old ladies in a parade a few months ago. Therefore, it seems to me that Democrats are standing on the graves of children to push their agenda, rather than trying to actually solve the issue of people wanting to mass-murder others.
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  Most democrats don’t want to ban guns. They just want it harder for mentally I’ll people to obtain them.
  - innocentoldguy 4y ago
    Biden came out this week talking about banning “high capacity” 9mm guns and Jim Acosta has been pushing the “ban AR-15s” agenda pretty hard. I’ve been following this issue since the 90s and it is apparent that Democrats want gun bans and confiscation, and not other solutions that have proven to work.

robswc 4y ago

>There are stringent licensing requirements and heavy penalties for breaking the rules. That’s all most people are asking for. Aren't there already heavy penalties? Have there been any mass shooters that haven't been "adequately" punished? My whole thing is that I do believe that "gun control" would result in less gun related deaths... but it wouldn't stop psychos from killing people. It's been shown time and time again that you don't need a gun to kill 10+ people. I also don't think that we're at the point where we trust our government to the point of surrendering our best/final line of defense. I feel any sort of "gun ban" or "gun control" would be irreversible, certainly irreversible at any point it's needed most.

maxerickson 4y ago
The military is going to win the war against tyranny (no matter which side they end up on). "I need my gun so I can get killed while holding it" is a boring argument.
- robswc 4y ago
  >The military is going to win the war against tyranny Not at all. The idea of armed citizens serves as a deterrent for any tyrannical regime. In what scenario do you see the military successfully occupying or holding control of the country for any significant period of time while the citizens are armed?

innocentoldguy 4y ago

We have gun laws, laws against shooting people, etc. We also have heavy penalties for breaking those laws, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. The issue isn’t a lack of laws, since those clearly exist. I also find your argument disingenuous, since when Democrats talk about “gun control,” it is always in terms of banning/confiscation. I don’t recall any calls to ban SUVs because some dimwit ran over a bunch of old ladies in a parade a few months ago. Therefore, it seems to me that Democrats are standing on the graves of children to push their agenda, rather than trying to actually solve the issue of people wanting to mass-murder others.

colinmhayes 4y ago
Most democrats don’t want to ban guns. They just want it harder for mentally I’ll people to obtain them.
- innocentoldguy 4y ago
  Biden came out this week talking about banning “high capacity” 9mm guns and Jim Acosta has been pushing the “ban AR-15s” agenda pretty hard. I’ve been following this issue since the 90s and it is apparent that Democrats want gun bans and confiscation, and not other solutions that have proven to work.