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I'm sorry, I'm just really hesitant to believe that "the fact stands that the USA has a school shootings problem" with the statistics you linked. The website yo
by _gabe_ 4y ago
I'm sorry, I'm just really hesitant to believe that "the fact stands that the USA has a school shootings problem" with the statistics you linked. The website you linked to cites two sources for its data. One of the sources is CNN. The second source is something called everytownresearch. Their method for counting school shootings were:
> Everytown tracks every time a firearm discharges a live round inside or into a school building or on or onto a school campus or grounds
Which means they're counting individual fights, and or gang violence in with all these shootings. In addition it looks like the vast majority of their data points list no injuries or deaths. They also include things like this in their statistics:
> A car entered the east parking lot at a high speed and hit one student. The CCSD police officer ordered the car to stop, and when it didn't, fired their gun at the car. Two teenagers in the car-- one a 16-year-old boy and one a juvenile-- were struck and injured by the officer's gunfire.
So this is an injury sustained from an officer trying to stop two kids who injured somebody with their car, not a gun.
If you want to talk about how we can combat school shootings how about we agree to use honest statistics? It doesn't help anyone to quote shoddy studies like this. In addition I found this[1] research paper that claims the original paper people quote to show the US is the leader in school shootings does not show how they got their data. In addition they refuse to show how they calculated their statistics. This paper goes on to show that the US may be significantly lower than the number one spot.
The reason I even looked at this stuff is because in the link you posted it said there 288 school shootings in the US this year! That claim sounded very far fetched. I know there have been some nasty events so far this year, but if there had been 288 shootings this year alone, I feel like there would have been a lot more news about it. That averages to almost 2 shootings every day this year. And I'm expected to believe these statistics are a factual claim?
Edit: And yes I know that this paper is from 2018, but I'm posting it because there is clearly weird stuff going on with the statistics that were quoted in the original posters linked "research" website.
[1]: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3238736 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3238736