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So guns are what caused this tragedy? The mere existing of them in the US causes people to lose their minds and go on rampages? We need to get to the root of th

So guns are what caused this tragedy? The mere existing of them in the US causes people to lose their minds and go on rampages? We need to get to the root of the problem because people will find another way to enact their evil. Look at Boston Marathon incident

JKCalhoun 4y ago
Your reply seems disingenuous. The person you are replying to did not say guns caused the tragedy. Rather the availability of guns in the U.S. is why we see school shootings every week in the U.S. and not in Europe.
- dontcare007 4y ago
  4000 people were killed due to the threat of box cutters... over 100 people were killed by a fertilizer bomb. People die due to knives, hammers and fists. It's a people problem.
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xvector 4y ago
Again, Europe has mental illness. But Europe does not have weekly school shootings. It really is not that complicated. Guns enable anyone who becomes mentally ill to kill magnitudes more people.
Bud 4y ago
No. The vast majority will NOT find another way. There's a reason 99.8% of this stuff is done with guns. AR-15s, to be specific, or something very similar. It's because that's what is easy. These people aren't geniuses. If you take the assault weapons away, the vast majority of this will just stop happening. This is a solved issue. We know how to solve it.
- ahallock 4y ago
  I don't think the Boston bombers or people using trucks to run people over are geniuses. Even the Batman killer was building bombs in his apartment. It's not rocket science. You may reduce the casualties with a ban and confiscation but you still have handguns to deal with. Good luck banning those. And you also have not solved the underlying problem causing these violent ideations in the first place. So I consider that a bandaid, not a solved problem by any definition.
throw0101a 4y ago
> So guns are what caused this tragedy? The mere existing of them in the US causes people to lose their minds and go on rampages? When people in other countries lose their minds they cannot go on rampages as easily because of filters on gun ownership. In fact before people go on rampages they often go to the US first to get guns so their rampages can be more 'effective' where they actually do live: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > When people in other countries lose their minds they cannot go on rampages as easily because of filters on gun ownership. They totally can, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China: > On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生)[7] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping,[8] Fujian province... > An attacker named Wu Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010... > On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang (方建堂) slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing three children and a teacher at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province.... > The death toll has risen to nine in Friday's stabbing attack outside a middle school in northwestern China allegedly carried out by a former pupil seeking revenge for having been bullied.... etc.
  - xvector 4y ago
    Notice how these don't even come close to the weekly school shootings in the US.
    - tablespoon 4y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China: > Reaction and response > ...The state media has also been keeping news of these attacks quiet by deleting forum entries on the internet and releasing few facts on the incident for fear of copycat crimes and mass panic... > Following the Chenpeng school attack, the Chinese government began posting security guards in schools throughout the country. It was planned that all schools have a security guard by 2013.

JKCalhoun 4y ago

Your reply seems disingenuous. The person you are replying to did not say guns caused the tragedy. Rather the availability of guns in the U.S. is why we see school shootings every week in the U.S. and not in Europe.

dontcare007 4y ago
4000 people were killed due to the threat of box cutters... over 100 people were killed by a fertilizer bomb. People die due to knives, hammers and fists. It's a people problem.

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xvector 4y ago

Again, Europe has mental illness. But Europe does not have weekly school shootings. It really is not that complicated. Guns enable anyone who becomes mentally ill to kill magnitudes more people.

Bud 4y ago

No. The vast majority will NOT find another way. There's a reason 99.8% of this stuff is done with guns. AR-15s, to be specific, or something very similar. It's because that's what is easy. These people aren't geniuses. If you take the assault weapons away, the vast majority of this will just stop happening. This is a solved issue. We know how to solve it.

ahallock 4y ago
I don't think the Boston bombers or people using trucks to run people over are geniuses. Even the Batman killer was building bombs in his apartment. It's not rocket science. You may reduce the casualties with a ban and confiscation but you still have handguns to deal with. Good luck banning those. And you also have not solved the underlying problem causing these violent ideations in the first place. So I consider that a bandaid, not a solved problem by any definition.

throw0101a 4y ago

> So guns are what caused this tragedy? The mere existing of them in the US causes people to lose their minds and go on rampages? When people in other countries lose their minds they cannot go on rampages as easily because of filters on gun ownership. In fact before people go on rampages they often go to the US first to get guns so their rampages can be more 'effective' where they actually do live: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks

tablespoon 4y ago
> When people in other countries lose their minds they cannot go on rampages as easily because of filters on gun ownership. They totally can, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China: > On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生)[7] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping,[8] Fujian province... > An attacker named Wu Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010... > On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang (方建堂) slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing three children and a teacher at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province.... > The death toll has risen to nine in Friday's stabbing attack outside a middle school in northwestern China allegedly carried out by a former pupil seeking revenge for having been bullied.... etc.
- xvector 4y ago
  Notice how these don't even come close to the weekly school shootings in the US.
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China: > Reaction and response > ...The state media has also been keeping news of these attacks quiet by deleting forum entries on the internet and releasing few facts on the incident for fear of copycat crimes and mass panic... > Following the Chenpeng school attack, the Chinese government began posting security guards in schools throughout the country. It was planned that all schools have a security guard by 2013.