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What if cars were legislated like guns? Mufflers would be illegal. If you are driving between states, you need to check to see if your driver's license is acce

What if cars were legislated like guns? Mufflers would be illegal. If you are driving between states, you need to check to see if your driver's license is accepted by each state you go through -- and some counties. Adjustable car seats are illegal. Automatic transmissions are illegal. Building your own car would be illegal. If your truck is too short, it's a felony. Unless you call your truck a car, and never put anything in the bed. If you have a criminal record for drug use, you cannot drive a car, or even ride a bus. Some states will only let you put 5 gallons of gas in your tank, claiming that large gas tanks are a risk for ramming attacks. California will only let you purchase cars they say are safe--and haven't updated the roster for years. Politicians keep insisting that your tires should be laser etched with microscopic serial numbers so you can track down criminals by the tire marks left behind, and that your car should have a kill switch controlled by the government. Movies like Fast and the Furious get blamed for causing drunk driving. If you buy a Tesla, people constantly demand that you explain why you NEED to own it, and that everyone should be perfectly fine with a Vespa scooter. Whenever a drunk driver hits someone, society blames you personally, and says that you just want your dumb hobbies and don't care about children.

akomtu 4y ago
That's not even all the rules. Car keys must be shorter than one inch to prevent masd stabbing. Purchasing gas needs a license, 3 hour wait time to deter impulsive arsonists, and suspicious looks when you buy too much gas (more than 10 gallons) per day. Gas purchases are limited to 50 gallons per month per person. Selling gas, oil or engine parts to strangers is a felony. Windshields are banned, and tinted windshields is a crime with a minimum of 10 years in prison punishment, because windhields let criminals conceal their activity. Black "assault style" trucks are banned. Oil isn't illegal, but its use is frowned upon and it can be bought only from the right people on the outskirts of the state. Every accident involving more than 4 cars makes the media start whining about aboloshing all "machines of death", politicians arrange an urgent consilium and propose a bill to ban 4-wheeled assault-style machines, but usually fail to get enough votes. When the do, the law remains in force, sort of, until some federal judge returns from a long vacation, finds out what this kindergarten did and overturns the law (and promptly departs to another multi-year vacation).
temp8964 4y ago
But you need multiple steps including the driver’s test to get a driver’s license, then you can drive. In this recent shooting, it’s obvious the shooter got his guns way too easily. I am pro-gun but I think you should be required to have a gun license first before you can buy a gun. And a mental health test and safety test should be passed to get the license.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  Basically anyone with a pulse can get a driver's license, it's almost impossible to lose one permanently, and even people caught driving without one often only get a slap on the wrist.
  - temp8964 4y ago
    I don’t think you can get a driver’s license in one step shop. It usually requires you bring documents and wait in long lines and schedule a test and take the test on a different day and go back wait in long lines. There’s no way you can get a driver’s license with a pulse.
- Glyptodon 4y ago
  You don't actually need a driver's license to buy a motor vehicle I don't think.
YATA2 4y ago
This is hilariously perfect. This should be posted everywhere.
coinbasetwwa 4y ago
I needed this, thanks man.
javajosh 4y ago
>What if cars were legislated like guns? What the GP meant, clearly, was "what if gun users were regulated like car users", e.g. requiring training and a license. IMHO this fits the "part of a well-regulated militia" clause that people always ignore. If I had to guess, this clause was there specifically to prevent unstable people from getting firearms, since your fellow militia members are probably not going to want you if you seem unstable. Social proof is not a bad heuristic, even if it does have obvious failure modes.
- bjt2n3904 4y ago
  Yes. And anyone who makes such a statement clearly doesn't have a grasp on the issue -- either of what a civil right is, or how guns and cars are regulated. If guns were regulated like cars, there would be no background check to buy a gun. A felony would not disqualify you from gun ownership. Schools would teach marksmanship starting at age 15, and you could get a license to carry at sixteen, recognized by all states. Suppressors wouldn't just be legal, they'd be mandatory. No one would try to sue Smith and Wesson for shooting sprees, just like nobody tried to sue Ford for the Waekusha ramming attack. Etc, etc, etc. But as to what the first response said, ultimately then, gun ownership would be a privilege, not a right. You don't license rights.
  - javajosh 4y ago
    >A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The right, as written, includes the phrase "A well regulated Militia". This is the only right that includes the word "regulated". Personally, I would be in favor of a highly distributed form of regulation, similar to the "jury of your peers" system: to own a gun, you must join a militia, and it's up to that militia to determine if you're the type of person to randomly murder children or not. (This is similar to the idea I proposed after 9/11 that passengers be required to socially mingle with each other, and then (privately) share concerns with the airline or TSA. That is, the people with the most to lose are the best defense against these kinds of threats).
    - 4y ago

akomtu 4y ago

That's not even all the rules. Car keys must be shorter than one inch to prevent masd stabbing. Purchasing gas needs a license, 3 hour wait time to deter impulsive arsonists, and suspicious looks when you buy too much gas (more than 10 gallons) per day. Gas purchases are limited to 50 gallons per month per person. Selling gas, oil or engine parts to strangers is a felony. Windshields are banned, and tinted windshields is a crime with a minimum of 10 years in prison punishment, because windhields let criminals conceal their activity. Black "assault style" trucks are banned. Oil isn't illegal, but its use is frowned upon and it can be bought only from the right people on the outskirts of the state. Every accident involving more than 4 cars makes the media start whining about aboloshing all "machines of death", politicians arrange an urgent consilium and propose a bill to ban 4-wheeled assault-style machines, but usually fail to get enough votes. When the do, the law remains in force, sort of, until some federal judge returns from a long vacation, finds out what this kindergarten did and overturns the law (and promptly departs to another multi-year vacation).

temp8964 4y ago

But you need multiple steps including the driver’s test to get a driver’s license, then you can drive. In this recent shooting, it’s obvious the shooter got his guns way too easily. I am pro-gun but I think you should be required to have a gun license first before you can buy a gun. And a mental health test and safety test should be passed to get the license.

josephcsible 4y ago
Basically anyone with a pulse can get a driver's license, it's almost impossible to lose one permanently, and even people caught driving without one often only get a slap on the wrist.
- temp8964 4y ago
  I don’t think you can get a driver’s license in one step shop. It usually requires you bring documents and wait in long lines and schedule a test and take the test on a different day and go back wait in long lines. There’s no way you can get a driver’s license with a pulse.
Glyptodon 4y ago
You don't actually need a driver's license to buy a motor vehicle I don't think.

YATA2 4y ago

This is hilariously perfect. This should be posted everywhere.

coinbasetwwa 4y ago

I needed this, thanks man.

javajosh 4y ago

>What if cars were legislated like guns? What the GP meant, clearly, was "what if gun users were regulated like car users", e.g. requiring training and a license. IMHO this fits the "part of a well-regulated militia" clause that people always ignore. If I had to guess, this clause was there specifically to prevent unstable people from getting firearms, since your fellow militia members are probably not going to want you if you seem unstable. Social proof is not a bad heuristic, even if it does have obvious failure modes.

bjt2n3904 4y ago
Yes. And anyone who makes such a statement clearly doesn't have a grasp on the issue -- either of what a civil right is, or how guns and cars are regulated. If guns were regulated like cars, there would be no background check to buy a gun. A felony would not disqualify you from gun ownership. Schools would teach marksmanship starting at age 15, and you could get a license to carry at sixteen, recognized by all states. Suppressors wouldn't just be legal, they'd be mandatory. No one would try to sue Smith and Wesson for shooting sprees, just like nobody tried to sue Ford for the Waekusha ramming attack. Etc, etc, etc. But as to what the first response said, ultimately then, gun ownership would be a privilege, not a right. You don't license rights.
- javajosh 4y ago
  >A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The right, as written, includes the phrase "A well regulated Militia". This is the only right that includes the word "regulated". Personally, I would be in favor of a highly distributed form of regulation, similar to the "jury of your peers" system: to own a gun, you must join a militia, and it's up to that militia to determine if you're the type of person to randomly murder children or not. (This is similar to the idea I proposed after 9/11 that passengers be required to socially mingle with each other, and then (privately) share concerns with the airline or TSA. That is, the people with the most to lose are the best defense against these kinds of threats).
  - 4y ago