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I don't think it has to be that hard; you just need to require that communication is preserved for companies over a certain size, e.g. meeting minutes, emails,

I don't think it has to be that hard; you just need to require that communication is preserved for companies over a certain size, e.g. meeting minutes, emails, etc. This is already the case for financial records and some employment records, and the case with politics ("but her emails!") This way, a record can be subpoenaed if needed. Don't keep records or don't have records of this particular decision? The person responsible for making sure the records are kept for that department will be in trouble. There is some administrative "red tape" here, but it's not that bad, and much of these records already exist (or existed). The problem is the political will to enact such a law; I agree that's not likely to happen.

colechristensen 4y ago
"You have to keep a record of what happened during all employee interactions so that we can prosecute you some day" isn't exactly a likely-to-succeed plan. Already prevalent are coaching employees not to leave records of certain legally contentious topics.
- sodality2 4y ago
  > isn't exactly a likely-to-succeed plan It doesn't have to gain popularity, be well-liked, or be agreed with by the companies. If it is law, they must follow it.
- oceanplexian 4y ago
  I worked for a certain rainforest company and they specifically coached us on not leaving records or discussing certain subjects in any form of written communication.
- spiffytech 4y ago
  Early in my career I worked at a company that stored customer credit card numbers in clear text in the database. When I learned of PCI compliance, I naively emailed my manager some links on the topic and a note that we might not be in compliance. I was promptly rebuked for leaving a paper trail.
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  Yes, this was addressed with "don't have records of this particular decision? The person responsible for making sure the records are kept for that department will be in trouble."

colechristensen 4y ago

"You have to keep a record of what happened during all employee interactions so that we can prosecute you some day" isn't exactly a likely-to-succeed plan. Already prevalent are coaching employees not to leave records of certain legally contentious topics.

sodality2 4y ago
> isn't exactly a likely-to-succeed plan It doesn't have to gain popularity, be well-liked, or be agreed with by the companies. If it is law, they must follow it.
oceanplexian 4y ago
I worked for a certain rainforest company and they specifically coached us on not leaving records or discussing certain subjects in any form of written communication.
spiffytech 4y ago
Early in my career I worked at a company that stored customer credit card numbers in clear text in the database. When I learned of PCI compliance, I naively emailed my manager some links on the topic and a note that we might not be in compliance. I was promptly rebuked for leaving a paper trail.
Beltalowda 4y ago
Yes, this was addressed with "don't have records of this particular decision? The person responsible for making sure the records are kept for that department will be in trouble."