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Strip clubs are in a secular decline anyway so there are many confounding factors to take into consideration. It's mainly that societal standards have risen .

Strip clubs are in a secular decline anyway so there are many confounding factors to take into consideration. It's mainly that societal standards have risen . So men too want to feel unique and special and don't see the appeal of going to a place and pay for a woman they don't even know to grind on their crotch seconds after having done the same with an other patron, and seconds before doing the same moves with yet an other patron. As societal standards rise men essentially become almost female themselves in their thinking and psychology around encounters with the opposite sex. I include myself in this characterization, it's kinda of an uncharted territory and kinda sad, but that's the way it is. Going to the strip club is very easy, but it's not fullfilling unfortunately, it used to be, but not anymore, wish there was a way to go back

geranim0 4y ago
Absolute nonsense.
whatchangedlol 4y ago
Lol go back to men having lower standards? The strip clubs are as good as ever
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  If you can't enjoy it anymore, the fact that it's still there isn't some consolation, isn't it? And there is a secular decline: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48667681 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48667681
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bdcravens 4y ago
I would think it's a product of free porn and hookup apps, along with increased caution due to COVID.
- hattmall 4y ago
  I'm going with inflation. Definitely not some major societal shift. So much of the stimulus and pandemic unemployment money and probably PPP went to strip clubs. Prices are through the roof but people have less disposable income right now due to everything else also being through the roof. It will even out somewhat. I don't think hookup apps are a factor really, but Onlyfans and premium snap chats probably are, at least on the supply side.
  - op00to 4y ago
    > So much of the stimulus and pandemic unemployment money and probably PPP went to strip clubs Can you show that any significant portion of the money you mentioned went to “strip clubs”? That just seems like an attack on people who received unemployment.
    - lupire 4y ago
      Especially because PPP funds were issued when to support payroll at a time when non -essential businesses, like strip clubs, closed and removed direct customer contact.
  - blacksmith_tb 4y ago
    Not clear if by "went to strip clubs" you mean "was paid to operators" or "made its way to patrons who paid it to the clubs"? My memory was that dancers tend to be paid like waitstaff and rely on tip income, quite possible they wouldn't have gotten much out of PPP if they weren't full time employees?
- x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago
  Porn has been free for a decade plus now, and hookup apps are just as old. As far as COVID, we are coming out of the dark ages concerning COVID protocols as many are vaccinated willingly, or unwillingly by contracting Omicron.
FooBarBizBazz 4y ago
Pretty sure there was always a significant cohort of men, probably a majority in fact, who, through some combination of moral belief and personal pride, would not have frequented strip clubs. Sexual morality has been a big, big theme in lots of the major religions, especially the Abrahamic ones, for well on two thousand years. I wouldn't doubt there's been a secular decline on a timescale of 3-4 generations, though.
- klipt 4y ago
  Not to mention that "not frequenting strip clubs" increases your evolutionary fitness. Strip clubs take away your resources but don't increase your chances of reproduction in any way (possibly the opposite).
- lupire 4y ago
  "Moral belief" in puritanicalism is correlated with higher consumption of sex industry products and services.
x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago
I don't think "fulfilling" has ever been something men have associated with strip clubs.
- danbolt 4y ago
  “You know, strip clubs weren’t really like how they show them in the movies” remarks the geriatric millennial as they turn away from ReBoot reruns for a brief moment, “not the most romantic of places back then.”
  - x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago
    Lol, I don't even know how to respond to this comment, especially the Reboot mention which I remember fondly as a geriatric millenial.
kazinator 4y ago
"Wow, people still eat MacDonald's burgers and fries and watch TV? I haven't done either in 25 years. Go figure!"
hi5eyes 4y ago
It's literally just a fun place to go to when you're on multiple drugs, partying with friends and want some girls around. Not very deep, but I would get why some people dont understand the point of going out. Plenty of high status, less degen men go to strip clubs Same with casinos, sometimes.. you just want to spend some time with friends? I get why people would think "why go to casinos/strip clubs when online poker/OF exist" but it's obvious these people don't understand what it's like to cut loose
MrMan 4y ago
I think women also have more outlets to harness mens urges for money on apps instead of in person

geranim0 4y ago

Absolute nonsense.

whatchangedlol 4y ago

Lol go back to men having lower standards? The strip clubs are as good as ever

Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
If you can't enjoy it anymore, the fact that it's still there isn't some consolation, isn't it? And there is a secular decline: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48667681 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48667681

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bdcravens 4y ago

I would think it's a product of free porn and hookup apps, along with increased caution due to COVID.

hattmall 4y ago
I'm going with inflation. Definitely not some major societal shift. So much of the stimulus and pandemic unemployment money and probably PPP went to strip clubs. Prices are through the roof but people have less disposable income right now due to everything else also being through the roof. It will even out somewhat. I don't think hookup apps are a factor really, but Onlyfans and premium snap chats probably are, at least on the supply side.
- op00to 4y ago
  > So much of the stimulus and pandemic unemployment money and probably PPP went to strip clubs Can you show that any significant portion of the money you mentioned went to “strip clubs”? That just seems like an attack on people who received unemployment.
  - lupire 4y ago
    Especially because PPP funds were issued when to support payroll at a time when non -essential businesses, like strip clubs, closed and removed direct customer contact.
- blacksmith_tb 4y ago
  Not clear if by "went to strip clubs" you mean "was paid to operators" or "made its way to patrons who paid it to the clubs"? My memory was that dancers tend to be paid like waitstaff and rely on tip income, quite possible they wouldn't have gotten much out of PPP if they weren't full time employees?
x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago
Porn has been free for a decade plus now, and hookup apps are just as old. As far as COVID, we are coming out of the dark ages concerning COVID protocols as many are vaccinated willingly, or unwillingly by contracting Omicron.

FooBarBizBazz 4y ago

Pretty sure there was always a significant cohort of men, probably a majority in fact, who, through some combination of moral belief and personal pride, would not have frequented strip clubs. Sexual morality has been a big, big theme in lots of the major religions, especially the Abrahamic ones, for well on two thousand years. I wouldn't doubt there's been a secular decline on a timescale of 3-4 generations, though.

klipt 4y ago
Not to mention that "not frequenting strip clubs" increases your evolutionary fitness. Strip clubs take away your resources but don't increase your chances of reproduction in any way (possibly the opposite).
lupire 4y ago
"Moral belief" in puritanicalism is correlated with higher consumption of sex industry products and services.

x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago

I don't think "fulfilling" has ever been something men have associated with strip clubs.

danbolt 4y ago
“You know, strip clubs weren’t really like how they show them in the movies” remarks the geriatric millennial as they turn away from ReBoot reruns for a brief moment, “not the most romantic of places back then.”
- x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago
  Lol, I don't even know how to respond to this comment, especially the Reboot mention which I remember fondly as a geriatric millenial.

kazinator 4y ago

"Wow, people still eat MacDonald's burgers and fries and watch TV? I haven't done either in 25 years. Go figure!"

hi5eyes 4y ago

It's literally just a fun place to go to when you're on multiple drugs, partying with friends and want some girls around. Not very deep, but I would get why some people dont understand the point of going out. Plenty of high status, less degen men go to strip clubs Same with casinos, sometimes.. you just want to spend some time with friends? I get why people would think "why go to casinos/strip clubs when online poker/OF exist" but it's obvious these people don't understand what it's like to cut loose

MrMan 4y ago

I think women also have more outlets to harness mens urges for money on apps instead of in person