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I appreciate you taking the time to write these out. I want to research it a bit more before replying and also share what you wrote with one of the authors of t

I appreciate you taking the time to write these out. I want to research it a bit more before replying and also share what you wrote with one of the authors of that site who is a friend of mine, as I think that more evidence may be there just not so directly connected to that one article. Regardless, for now, thank you.

jimkleiber 4y ago
In looking more at it, I agree with you that that page itself doesn't provide those clear links to studies or citations to back up some of the claims. I hope they add those links in the future because they have a lot of evidence that they've collected on the Citations section of their page. You can find citations/studies related to Transparency Benefits Lobbyists[0], Transparency Drives Partisanship[1], Transparency is Weaponized[2], Citizens Do Not Monitor Congress[3], Perverse Accountability[4], The Secret Ballot & the Gilded Age[5], The Politics of Intimidation[6], Bad Democracy[7], and a testimony before US Congress in 2019 called "Congressional Transparency: A Word of Caution"[8]. I put the links there just because right now I don't have the time to dig through them to find ones that connect directly to your concerns, but as I said, I hope the authors do illuminate those connections more and in the meantime, I hope you or others may read through some of the evidence behind the more abstracted summaries on the 7 myths page. EDIT: One quote from that testimony which I just found and think is relevant: > As I will discuss below, transparency burdens deliberation in two key ways: (1) it empowers organized groups to press their demands in the legislative process; (2) it tends to divert congressional discourse outward toward messaging rather than toward problem solving. [0]: https://congressionalresearch.org/Citations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/Citations.html [1]: https://congressionalresearch.org/PartisanshipCitations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/PartisanshipCitations.html [2]: https://congressionalresearch.org/WeaponizedTransparencyCitations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/WeaponizedTransparencyCita... [3]: https://congressionalresearch.org/CitizensDoNot.html https://congressionalresearch.org/CitizensDoNot.html [4]: https://congressionalresearch.org/PerverseAccountability.html https://congressionalresearch.org/PerverseAccountability.htm... [5]: https://congressionalresearch.org/SecretBallot.html https://congressionalresearch.org/SecretBallot.html [6]: https://congressionalresearch.org/BruberyCitations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/BruberyCitations.html [7]: https://congressionalresearch.org/BadDemocracy.html https://congressionalresearch.org/BadDemocracy.html [8]: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/MH/MH00/20190510/109468/HHRG-116-MH00-Wstate-LeeF-20190510-U2.pdf https://docs.house.gov/meetings/MH/MH00/20190510/109468/HHRG...

jimkleiber 4y ago

In looking more at it, I agree with you that that page itself doesn't provide those clear links to studies or citations to back up some of the claims. I hope they add those links in the future because they have a lot of evidence that they've collected on the Citations section of their page. You can find citations/studies related to Transparency Benefits Lobbyists[0], Transparency Drives Partisanship[1], Transparency is Weaponized[2], Citizens Do Not Monitor Congress[3], Perverse Accountability[4], The Secret Ballot & the Gilded Age[5], The Politics of Intimidation[6], Bad Democracy[7], and a testimony before US Congress in 2019 called "Congressional Transparency: A Word of Caution"[8]. I put the links there just because right now I don't have the time to dig through them to find ones that connect directly to your concerns, but as I said, I hope the authors do illuminate those connections more and in the meantime, I hope you or others may read through some of the evidence behind the more abstracted summaries on the 7 myths page. EDIT: One quote from that testimony which I just found and think is relevant: > As I will discuss below, transparency burdens deliberation in two key ways: (1) it empowers organized groups to press their demands in the legislative process; (2) it tends to divert congressional discourse outward toward messaging rather than toward problem solving. [0]: https://congressionalresearch.org/Citations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/Citations.html [1]: https://congressionalresearch.org/PartisanshipCitations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/PartisanshipCitations.html [2]: https://congressionalresearch.org/WeaponizedTransparencyCitations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/WeaponizedTransparencyCita... [3]: https://congressionalresearch.org/CitizensDoNot.html https://congressionalresearch.org/CitizensDoNot.html [4]: https://congressionalresearch.org/PerverseAccountability.html https://congressionalresearch.org/PerverseAccountability.htm... [5]: https://congressionalresearch.org/SecretBallot.html https://congressionalresearch.org/SecretBallot.html [6]: https://congressionalresearch.org/BruberyCitations.html https://congressionalresearch.org/BruberyCitations.html [7]: https://congressionalresearch.org/BadDemocracy.html https://congressionalresearch.org/BadDemocracy.html [8]: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/MH/MH00/20190510/109468/HHRG-116-MH00-Wstate-LeeF-20190510-U2.pdf https://docs.house.gov/meetings/MH/MH00/20190510/109468/HHRG...