>The preferred term is "transgender", or just "trans (people)". Yes, now that you said it, I remember. >But using a term that almost no one on the other side

>The preferred term is "transgender", or just "trans (people)". Yes, now that you said it, I remember. >But using a term that almost no one on the other side uses (and claiming no knowledge) is an indication that you haven't actually put in much effort at all in listening to and understanding the other side. It's not the other side to me, I'm all for equal civil rights of all people. I'm vehemently against violence or bullying against other people and believe people should be given the benefit of the doubt and judged by the actions of their character. My only concern with any aspect of the trans movement is people born as males and aging past puberty competing with females in female sports. I don't think it's fair to females, they are just too strong biologically. Females have been fighting for rights for over a century now and this particular aspect seriously encroaches on that. We have men's and women's sports for a reason. It can also be extremely dangerous in contact sports. https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-when-transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-broke-opponent-s-skull-mma-fight https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-when-transgender-fighte... I'm sure I got some of the nomenclature wrong, but you get the idea. >That being said, I am shutting down the conversation here, since I don't want to get into another HN comments flame war, and I've already pushed that line an unwise amount. You're welcome to reply further and get in the last word, if you'd like. I understand, I was about to do the same. Thanks for the decency in our discussion, I learned some stuff.