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...no comparison with Flutter or at least remarks of what would also apply to it?

by catchclose8919 4y ago

frou_dh 4y ago
Wouldn't be surprised if no one quoted there has ever used Flutter. The Apple dev comment-sphere is quite insular.
- pornel 4y ago
  It's not a surprise there's zero overlap. The type of people who develop native Apple-only apps really care about having proper first-class native UI down to every detail, not merely something close enough. As you can see, for many even Apple's own SwiftUI isn't "native" enough, so at this level of detail using Google's generic UI framework is completely unthinkable. For cases where portability or development time is valued more than having perfect Apple-HIG-compliant UI polish, there are lots of better options. Since Apple has flattened their Aqua interface out of existence down to mostly just gray text labels, even Electron apps started looking good-enough.
  - hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
    > there are lots of better options Could you give some examples? Most people I talked to really hate React Native, for example. Ionic doesn't seem to have gained enough momentum. You mention Electron, but the last time I checked it's only for the desktop, not mobile. Each year new options appear, but I'm not sure they are that great.
    - pornel 4y ago
      I had mostly desktops in mind where there are more widget toolkits to choose from. On mobile it's not so great indeed. Cordova is a mobile equivalent of Electron, but often you can get away with your own native app shell + WebView.
finiteseries 4y ago
Flutter is almost exclusively used by web developers in my professional and personal experience which is odd considering the lack of JS. The types of companies that hire iOS developers and build iOS apps also hire android developers and build android apps, again, IME.
- MrDresden 4y ago
  Work for a financial institution which hired iOS and Android developers and had them rewrite everything in Flutter.
  - finiteseries 4y ago
    It’s the natural move, it’s just odd I’ve mostly seen adoption using web developers so far.

...no comparison with Flutter or at least remarks of what would also apply to it?

frou_dh 4y ago

Wouldn't be surprised if no one quoted there has ever used Flutter. The Apple dev comment-sphere is quite insular.

pornel 4y ago
It's not a surprise there's zero overlap. The type of people who develop native Apple-only apps really care about having proper first-class native UI down to every detail, not merely something close enough. As you can see, for many even Apple's own SwiftUI isn't "native" enough, so at this level of detail using Google's generic UI framework is completely unthinkable. For cases where portability or development time is valued more than having perfect Apple-HIG-compliant UI polish, there are lots of better options. Since Apple has flattened their Aqua interface out of existence down to mostly just gray text labels, even Electron apps started looking good-enough.
- hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
  > there are lots of better options Could you give some examples? Most people I talked to really hate React Native, for example. Ionic doesn't seem to have gained enough momentum. You mention Electron, but the last time I checked it's only for the desktop, not mobile. Each year new options appear, but I'm not sure they are that great.
  - pornel 4y ago
    I had mostly desktops in mind where there are more widget toolkits to choose from. On mobile it's not so great indeed. Cordova is a mobile equivalent of Electron, but often you can get away with your own native app shell + WebView.

finiteseries 4y ago

Flutter is almost exclusively used by web developers in my professional and personal experience which is odd considering the lack of JS. The types of companies that hire iOS developers and build iOS apps also hire android developers and build android apps, again, IME.

MrDresden 4y ago
Work for a financial institution which hired iOS and Android developers and had them rewrite everything in Flutter.
- finiteseries 4y ago
  It’s the natural move, it’s just odd I’ve mostly seen adoption using web developers so far.