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IPv4 is not an existential threat

gumby 4y ago
Sure, the analogy is not perfect — e.g. AFAIK there are no subsidies for v4 as there are for fossil fuels. As far as existential threats go: everybody thinks locally and acts globally in most, if not all of their actions. And existential threats and mortality are difficult for people to deal with. In fact there’s a whole branch of human activity devoted to that topic (religion). I don’t mean to reduce the significance of the risk (I dropped my other work and now work in climate repair myself) but I think there is are fascinating and instructive lessons to be learned from this example.
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  The Internet with its AJAX/ReST architecture enabled by JavaScript in the browser lets you "link globally, interact locally"! I just hope the Big AJAX Industry doesn't bribe congress to subsidize Fossil Protocols such as XML and SOAP, just to delay the transition to more environmentally friendly technologies like JSON and ReST. NOTE: This packet is sold by net wait, not by volume. Packed as full as practicable by modern automatic equipment, it was delayed the full net wait indicated. If it does not appear full when opened, it is because contents have been compressed during shipping and handling.
  - gumby 4y ago
    I had never before thought of "think globally, act locally" as a description of the end-to-end principle.
    - DonHopkins 4y ago
      For most people it's just means-to-end principle. By "everybody thinks locally and acts globally" are you making fun of all that old hippie shit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_globally,_act_locally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_globally,_act_locally Announcement: The new official slogan is "act globally, act locally". Please update your programs.
      - gumby 4y ago
        Yes, regardless of ideals, I think my formulation is accurate. Nobody thinks of the polar bears when they drive their SUV a mile to pick up a loaf of bread.
        DonHopkins 4y ago
        So "think provincially, act catastrophically". ;) This classic 1973 paper by W Wulf and Mary Shaw of CMU was the manifesto of the early anti-globalization movement: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/953353.953355 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/953353.953355

Sure, the analogy is not perfect — e.g. AFAIK there are no subsidies for v4 as there are for fossil fuels. As far as existential threats go: everybody thinks locally and acts globally in most, if not all of their actions. And existential threats and mortality are difficult for people to deal with. In fact there’s a whole branch of human activity devoted to that topic (religion). I don’t mean to reduce the significance of the risk (I dropped my other work and now work in climate repair myself) but I think there is are fascinating and instructive lessons to be learned from this example.

DonHopkins 4y ago
The Internet with its AJAX/ReST architecture enabled by JavaScript in the browser lets you "link globally, interact locally"! I just hope the Big AJAX Industry doesn't bribe congress to subsidize Fossil Protocols such as XML and SOAP, just to delay the transition to more environmentally friendly technologies like JSON and ReST. NOTE: This packet is sold by net wait, not by volume. Packed as full as practicable by modern automatic equipment, it was delayed the full net wait indicated. If it does not appear full when opened, it is because contents have been compressed during shipping and handling.
- gumby 4y ago
  I had never before thought of "think globally, act locally" as a description of the end-to-end principle.
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    For most people it's just means-to-end principle. By "everybody thinks locally and acts globally" are you making fun of all that old hippie shit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_globally,_act_locally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_globally,_act_locally Announcement: The new official slogan is "act globally, act locally". Please update your programs.
    - gumby 4y ago
      Yes, regardless of ideals, I think my formulation is accurate. Nobody thinks of the polar bears when they drive their SUV a mile to pick up a loaf of bread.
      - DonHopkins 4y ago
        So "think provincially, act catastrophically". ;) This classic 1973 paper by W Wulf and Mary Shaw of CMU was the manifesto of the early anti-globalization movement: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/953353.953355 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/953353.953355