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> And here's lies the problem with the American view of the matter. No, guns are not amoral. Guns are tools _literally_ designed for killing people. In what wor
by Melting_Harps 4y ago
> And here's lies the problem with the American view of the matter. No, guns are not amoral. Guns are tools _literally_ designed for killing people. In what world is a killing instrument amoral?
It's not an American-centric view, because it's also held in Switzerland where you see Military walking around in full fatigues and fully loaded automatic weapons on a daily basis and no one cares; the issue is your conclusions are lazy at best, firearms may have been designed for that purpose, I agree, but they can also be used to hunt, ward off predators in the wild or on your land, or protect your from a would-be assailants just the same.
And that is not what is taken into account in your very biased assessment, firearms were/are required in the frontier that the US is/was for all those reasons, and more. Much of the US is vast and still mainly uninhabited and very far from what you'd call civilization.
As I said, I'm likely the closest thing to the ideal fire arm owner: I own only one and I know how to use it, I have been screened by the DoJ and and have had that firearm since I was in my 20s. I've gone to hunting training safety courses, too.
As for the War part, no this is exactly a byproduct of nations like Germany and Italy and most of the EU building their entire economies around Russian energy knowing full well what the consequences were and enabling despots to commit crimes against Humanity to maintain the status quo; the invasion may have taken place in '22 but war has been ongoing since '14 in Ukraine and still Nordstream 2 was well under way. This one single aspect on the European continent has led to lots of deaths, too. Just because it didn't affect YOU directly doesn't mean that it doesn't count and THAT is most certainly cultural in Europe--just for context I've been involved since the Maidan Revolution in 2013 and most Europeans are entirely oblivious to have has been happening in order for them to live their lives as-is to the determent of Ukrainians in the Donbas and Crimea regions all these years.
My point is that just because you outsource your violence to those 'other Europeans over there' in order to live your cushy lives in EU then there is no point in having this conversation because you willfully have blinders on that make you incapable to see what the real issue is that my entire argument is based on.
The totality of the issue needs to be taken into account, and the only one here moving goals posts is you.
You don't need to convince me about how life is the US including the violence, I lived in it for most of my Life (I'm from SoCal and grew up when LA was ground zero for some of the worst gang violence in the US in the 80s with the crack epidemic) and I chose to move back to EU after COVID because I was concerned with the growing violence from that time was coming back and I was tired of fighting after nearly 20 years of activism, but the truth is I feel way more threatened here than I did back in the US.
And it had nothing to do with the fact that I do not own a firearm in the EU.