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There is a bit if confusion here. America isn't a democracy. It is a republic. We elect idiots that just do not represent us. We need to vote on issues direc

There is a bit if confusion here. America isn't a democracy. It is a republic. We elect idiots that just do not represent us. We need to vote on issues directly and remove representatives. We have computers now. We don't need a representative to travel to DC during the winter to cast our vote. Vote on all issues. Stop parties and proxies.

tokai 4y ago
Just stop. That 'isn't a democracy' is such a trite lie, that only makes sense if you redefine all the terms from what they are commonly understood. USA is a (flawed) democracy. Republics can be democratic, autocratic, etc. The founding fathers were against direct democracy, not representative democracy.
oneoff786 4y ago
Ah yes. Let’s settle it with Twitter mobs
jabl 4y ago
Ideally the idea of representative government is that the legislators would have the time to study the issues before voting on them. Direct democracy is problematic because most people can't be bothered to read up on the issues, or even bother to vote in most cases. It would just give way too much power to lunatics with too much free time.
- cies 4y ago
  In Switzerland it works. Maybe the Swiss are perceptually less moronic than the USians? It's not "by denfinition problematic".
jibalt 4y ago
America is a democracy and a republic. Ask any competent political scientist.
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> We elect idiots that just do not represent us. We need to vote on issues directly and remove representatives. We need to teach the Federalist papers. They observe “as long as people hold differing opinions, have differing amounts of wealth and own differing amount of property, they will continue to form alliances with people who are most similar to them and they will sometimes work against the public interest and infringe upon the rights of others” [1]. This majoritarianism failure is visible in a few states’ ballot initiatives’ chaos. Anyone calling for direct democracy should be able to account for its historical failure. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10
ransom1538 4y ago
End proxy votes! Vote on issues brought by a min. count! Stop the evil empire!

tokai 4y ago

Just stop. That 'isn't a democracy' is such a trite lie, that only makes sense if you redefine all the terms from what they are commonly understood. USA is a (flawed) democracy. Republics can be democratic, autocratic, etc. The founding fathers were against direct democracy, not representative democracy.

oneoff786 4y ago

Ah yes. Let’s settle it with Twitter mobs

jabl 4y ago

Ideally the idea of representative government is that the legislators would have the time to study the issues before voting on them. Direct democracy is problematic because most people can't be bothered to read up on the issues, or even bother to vote in most cases. It would just give way too much power to lunatics with too much free time.

cies 4y ago
In Switzerland it works. Maybe the Swiss are perceptually less moronic than the USians? It's not "by denfinition problematic".

jibalt 4y ago

America is a democracy and a republic. Ask any competent political scientist.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> We elect idiots that just do not represent us. We need to vote on issues directly and remove representatives. We need to teach the Federalist papers. They observe “as long as people hold differing opinions, have differing amounts of wealth and own differing amount of property, they will continue to form alliances with people who are most similar to them and they will sometimes work against the public interest and infringe upon the rights of others” [1]. This majoritarianism failure is visible in a few states’ ballot initiatives’ chaos. Anyone calling for direct democracy should be able to account for its historical failure. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10

ransom1538 4y ago

End proxy votes! Vote on issues brought by a min. count! Stop the evil empire!