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Some korean brand was moving to physical buttons again, but I can't find which.

sosull 4y ago
I think Honda have returned to at least partial physical controls for heating, air, and music for the Honda e. But it still has a lot of screen.
- thfuran 4y ago
  Backup cameras are legally mandated on new us vehicles. The screens are not going anywhere so they're going to get used for other stuff too.
  - nkrisc 4y ago
    I don’t mind a small screen that isn’t involved in common cabin features. I have a 2018 Mazda3 and I like the backup camera. But I can control the climate control and temperature with physical buttons. The seat warmers have buttons. I can control the volume with a knob or on the steering wheel. The radio, unfortunately, is software. Seems like that much is unavoidable. But the small screen that is there is secondary to everything else I want to control while driving and I don’t ever need to use while driving. I’m typically using Apple CarPlay (or previously Android Auto) so if I do need to do something, I can use voice controls and at least keep my eyes on the road. I don’t mind small screens, as you said, they’re not going away. What I don’t want is a giant screen that controls everything.
  - ThunderSizzle 4y ago
    My backup camera screen is embedded in my reear view mirror. You wouldn't know when it's not on. Sure, it's small, but sufficient, considering it's not a replacement for mirrors and area awareness.
zwirbl 4y ago
I guess it was Mazda, so Japanese instead of Korean https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-purging-touchscreens-from-its-vehicles https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur... Though I don't know if they followed through
- neogodless 4y ago
  https://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mazda/2022-mazda-cx-5-review-for-those-who-think-young https://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mazda/2022-mazda-cx-5... > Like most modern Mazdas, the CX-5 uses an ultra-wide, non-touchscreen infotainment system. Buttons and knobs for HVAC https://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2022-Mazda-CX-5-Comparison-15-1179x786.jpg https://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/20...
- frxx 4y ago
  As far as I know they're sticking to it.
- meristem 4y ago
  Between 2019 and 2022 Mazda improved the truly atrocious latency linked to screen operations. All operations are physical, but you still need menus to find what you want. The latency was quite impressive. The 2022 has less latency and seemingly different menu trees to go with the ultrawide ( but narrow height) screen. HVAC is screen-independent. So is volume, thankfully.
  - fomine3 4y ago
    Except MX-30. They use touchscreen for AC for unknown reason. Maybe because the car is designed to be weird on their lineup?
kube-system 4y ago
Hyundai/Kia have had some horrible interfaces lately. https://youtu.be/EREg2XtohTg?t=7m https://youtu.be/EREg2XtohTg?t=7m
- tomtheelder 4y ago
  My 2022 Kona EV has an amazing, mostly physical button based interface fwiw.

I think Honda have returned to at least partial physical controls for heating, air, and music for the Honda e. But it still has a lot of screen.

thfuran 4y ago
Backup cameras are legally mandated on new us vehicles. The screens are not going anywhere so they're going to get used for other stuff too.
- nkrisc 4y ago
  I don’t mind a small screen that isn’t involved in common cabin features. I have a 2018 Mazda3 and I like the backup camera. But I can control the climate control and temperature with physical buttons. The seat warmers have buttons. I can control the volume with a knob or on the steering wheel. The radio, unfortunately, is software. Seems like that much is unavoidable. But the small screen that is there is secondary to everything else I want to control while driving and I don’t ever need to use while driving. I’m typically using Apple CarPlay (or previously Android Auto) so if I do need to do something, I can use voice controls and at least keep my eyes on the road. I don’t mind small screens, as you said, they’re not going away. What I don’t want is a giant screen that controls everything.
- ThunderSizzle 4y ago
  My backup camera screen is embedded in my reear view mirror. You wouldn't know when it's not on. Sure, it's small, but sufficient, considering it's not a replacement for mirrors and area awareness.

zwirbl 4y ago

I guess it was Mazda, so Japanese instead of Korean https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-purging-touchscreens-from-its-vehicles https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur... Though I don't know if they followed through

neogodless 4y ago
https://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mazda/2022-mazda-cx-5-review-for-those-who-think-young https://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mazda/2022-mazda-cx-5... > Like most modern Mazdas, the CX-5 uses an ultra-wide, non-touchscreen infotainment system. Buttons and knobs for HVAC https://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2022-Mazda-CX-5-Comparison-15-1179x786.jpg https://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/20...
frxx 4y ago
As far as I know they're sticking to it.
meristem 4y ago
Between 2019 and 2022 Mazda improved the truly atrocious latency linked to screen operations. All operations are physical, but you still need menus to find what you want. The latency was quite impressive. The 2022 has less latency and seemingly different menu trees to go with the ultrawide ( but narrow height) screen. HVAC is screen-independent. So is volume, thankfully.
- fomine3 4y ago
  Except MX-30. They use touchscreen for AC for unknown reason. Maybe because the car is designed to be weird on their lineup?

kube-system 4y ago

Hyundai/Kia have had some horrible interfaces lately. https://youtu.be/EREg2XtohTg?t=7m https://youtu.be/EREg2XtohTg?t=7m

tomtheelder 4y ago
My 2022 Kona EV has an amazing, mostly physical button based interface fwiw.