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There is so much to be tired from. Lots of stuff repeats itself over and over again and nothing (seemingly) ever changes. Only yesterday the mass shooting in Te

by WHA8m 4y ago

There is so much to be tired from. Lots of stuff repeats itself over and over again and nothing (seemingly) ever changes. Only yesterday the mass shooting in Texas. I'm not a US citizen, but every time I wonder how many times more do US people need to suffer before finally changing 'something'. I'm not in for a political discussion about a solution, but it should be obvious that there is a problem. No other country has this problem (on that scale). How many times more?

refurb 4y ago
You need to take a break from social media. You’re not even a US citizen but US news tires you? I certainly don’t lose sleep over what happens in Australia for example.
- WHA8m 4y ago
  I don't have social media (the big ones). I rarely read news papers. Nevertheless I don't miss bigger events. This is actually not about a specific event. You must have misunderstood me. What's tiring (and turns people cynic) is, that even though a problem is visible for everyone to see, nothing ever (seemingly) changes. That seems like a universal behavior that can not only be seen in the US, but everywhere humans are involved.
kurupt213 4y ago
The US people aren’t suffering. Unless you count first world problems
- more_corn 4y ago
  Working class people suffer in every downturn. It is very difficult to break out of paycheck-to-paycheck when you’re working for $7.25 an hour. When I worked for minimum wage they still took out close to 30% so increased gas prices hurt (have to get to work to get money!) cars break down (can’t afford a reliable car because they’re more expensive) food is expensive (can’t afford to eat cheap and healthy because working all the time). God help you if you need medical care or get sick and miss work, or have an unexpected $500 expense. Or have an expensive vice like smoking or drinking. If you’re trapped in that rut like tens of millions of people are in the US, a downturn hurts. I’m currently not in that rut, but I count my blessings every day that I escaped and a feel for people who are.
- throwaway743 4y ago
  Idk where you're from, but people are definitely struggling in the US relative to the system they're stuck in, and "first world problems" in its usual usage is not relevant in these regards.
- WHA8m 4y ago
  Are you assuming that only those who have it worst can truly suffer? Or are you in possession of the true meaning of the word 'suffer' and stand above us all to decide whether someone is suffering or not? Without being actually affected by all this (not a US citizen), I can say that your comment is flawed either way.
- lowq 4y ago
  Your comment reminded me of this handy chart regarding the developed world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...
giardini 4y ago
WHA8m says >" but it should be obvious that there is a problem."< It being so "obvious", perhaps you could clearly state the problem. And then you might possibly also have a solution (as do so many commentators today)? If you've studied complex social systems (e.g., the USA's socio-political environment) nothing is "obvious" about them and most "solutions" prove to be illusory. -"Life is a bitch and then you die." https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/16/life-hard/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/16/life-hard/
- WHA8m 4y ago
  Dude, really? The problem being that every 3 month there is a mass shooting with about 20 casualties. Including schools. How about you also read the first part of the sentence you cited me on: > I'm not in for a political discussion about a solution I explicitly stated that I am not in for that. For the exact reason you want to blame me for. Maybe read more careful next time or put up a little more good will. Especially on a delicate topic like this.

by WHA8m 4y ago

refurb 4y ago

You need to take a break from social media. You’re not even a US citizen but US news tires you? I certainly don’t lose sleep over what happens in Australia for example.

WHA8m 4y ago
I don't have social media (the big ones). I rarely read news papers. Nevertheless I don't miss bigger events. This is actually not about a specific event. You must have misunderstood me. What's tiring (and turns people cynic) is, that even though a problem is visible for everyone to see, nothing ever (seemingly) changes. That seems like a universal behavior that can not only be seen in the US, but everywhere humans are involved.

kurupt213 4y ago

The US people aren’t suffering. Unless you count first world problems

more_corn 4y ago
Working class people suffer in every downturn. It is very difficult to break out of paycheck-to-paycheck when you’re working for $7.25 an hour. When I worked for minimum wage they still took out close to 30% so increased gas prices hurt (have to get to work to get money!) cars break down (can’t afford a reliable car because they’re more expensive) food is expensive (can’t afford to eat cheap and healthy because working all the time). God help you if you need medical care or get sick and miss work, or have an unexpected $500 expense. Or have an expensive vice like smoking or drinking. If you’re trapped in that rut like tens of millions of people are in the US, a downturn hurts. I’m currently not in that rut, but I count my blessings every day that I escaped and a feel for people who are.
throwaway743 4y ago
Idk where you're from, but people are definitely struggling in the US relative to the system they're stuck in, and "first world problems" in its usual usage is not relevant in these regards.
WHA8m 4y ago
Are you assuming that only those who have it worst can truly suffer? Or are you in possession of the true meaning of the word 'suffer' and stand above us all to decide whether someone is suffering or not? Without being actually affected by all this (not a US citizen), I can say that your comment is flawed either way.
lowq 4y ago
Your comment reminded me of this handy chart regarding the developed world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...

giardini 4y ago

WHA8m says >" but it should be obvious that there is a problem."< It being so "obvious", perhaps you could clearly state the problem. And then you might possibly also have a solution (as do so many commentators today)? If you've studied complex social systems (e.g., the USA's socio-political environment) nothing is "obvious" about them and most "solutions" prove to be illusory. -"Life is a bitch and then you die." https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/16/life-hard/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/16/life-hard/

WHA8m 4y ago
Dude, really? The problem being that every 3 month there is a mass shooting with about 20 casualties. Including schools. How about you also read the first part of the sentence you cited me on: > I'm not in for a political discussion about a solution I explicitly stated that I am not in for that. For the exact reason you want to blame me for. Maybe read more careful next time or put up a little more good will. Especially on a delicate topic like this.