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So what is your proposal? Giving in to Russia? I don't know if you realize this but it would increase the risk of nuclear war, not decrease it because it would

So what is your proposal? Giving in to Russia? I don't know if you realize this but it would increase the risk of nuclear war, not decrease it because it would show that using nuclear threat is working. Edit: my gut feeling about the risk is pretty much the same ~ 1/5 to 1/3 change of nuclear war in short long distance from now. Yes, it is bad, but there is not much we can at the moment do to deescalate it.

readonthegoapp 4y ago
negotiate on territory, neutrality of some type for Ukraine, etc. -- it's not rocket science. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/7/anatol_lieven_ukraine_russia_peace_possibility https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/7/anatol_lieven_ukraine_... or, we could have a more of what we've achieved so far: - weakening of Russia - strengthening of NATO - increased risk of nuclear endofworld now and in the future - even faster and more catastrophic global warming - massive worldwide hunger, food shortages, starvation - displacement of millions of ukrainians - untold suffering of millions, incl and esp children - thousands of Ukraine civilians killed directly - tens of thousands terrorized - massive erosion of ukrainian civil rights - increased US violence and oppression - more money worldwide for war instead of humanity - etc. the first two are what US planners wanted, but they and all the others are bad for the rest of the world.