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I have never once in my career seen someone with an MS get hired over someone with a BS because they had a MS. If you're doing it purely for return-on-investmen

I have never once in my career seen someone with an MS get hired over someone with a BS because they had a MS. If you're doing it purely for return-on-investment, it's a massive waste of time and money.

bluemania2 4y ago
You may be underestimating the number of job descriptions which demand a masters degree to even be considered. This is especially the case for data science roles for tech/fin/blue chip. From experience OMSCS is perfect for this.
- twblalock 4y ago
  That's a small number of jobs and they are in niche areas. Also, the degree requirements on job descriptions are usually flexible. If you are qualified, apply anyway.
amackera 4y ago
As a counter example: I've seen that plenty of times. PhDs too.
wly_cdgr 4y ago
I've seen hundreds of job descriptions for a wide range of interesting roles (data science, ML, systems, computer graphics, AI research, CV, etc) that list an MS or PhD as a requirement But even if that bullet point is BS, I am sceptical that the ROI on spending $7k to get 1000+ hours better at your field can be THAT bad. Maybe suboptimal, with all the good free/cheap resources out there, but a waste of time? I'd be surprised. Besides, you get to avoid meetings for a couple more years, and that by itself might be worth $7k :)
- twblalock 4y ago
  For many software engineers, taking time off work to get a Master's degree would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost earnings. That's a much bigger deal than the cost of tuition.
gedy 4y ago
I've worked for a place that would only hire MS or PhD grads.
- rl3 4y ago
  >I've worked for a place that would only hire MS or PhD grads. Specialized regions aside, how bad was their code?
  - gedy 4y ago
    Haha not great, issue was the PhDs automatically were hired at Senior Software Engineer or higher, and then they couldn't write a concrete list of expectations of the role, because so many PhDs had no experience.
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TrackerFF 4y ago
What can be said - is that recessions and hiring stops send people back to schools, and you suddenly have a lot of people with Masters degrees applying for the same jobs. Tech could very well be immune against credential inflation like that (because of the growth) - but others are not. There are industries where you don't even get interviews unless you hold a graduate degree - precisely because there are too many applicants with graduate degrees. Maybe more relevant to the niche positions within tech (data science, for example)

bluemania2 4y ago

You may be underestimating the number of job descriptions which demand a masters degree to even be considered. This is especially the case for data science roles for tech/fin/blue chip. From experience OMSCS is perfect for this.

twblalock 4y ago
That's a small number of jobs and they are in niche areas. Also, the degree requirements on job descriptions are usually flexible. If you are qualified, apply anyway.

amackera 4y ago

As a counter example: I've seen that plenty of times. PhDs too.

wly_cdgr 4y ago

I've seen hundreds of job descriptions for a wide range of interesting roles (data science, ML, systems, computer graphics, AI research, CV, etc) that list an MS or PhD as a requirement But even if that bullet point is BS, I am sceptical that the ROI on spending $7k to get 1000+ hours better at your field can be THAT bad. Maybe suboptimal, with all the good free/cheap resources out there, but a waste of time? I'd be surprised. Besides, you get to avoid meetings for a couple more years, and that by itself might be worth $7k :)

twblalock 4y ago
For many software engineers, taking time off work to get a Master's degree would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost earnings. That's a much bigger deal than the cost of tuition.

gedy 4y ago

I've worked for a place that would only hire MS or PhD grads.

rl3 4y ago
>I've worked for a place that would only hire MS or PhD grads. Specialized regions aside, how bad was their code?
- gedy 4y ago
  Haha not great, issue was the PhDs automatically were hired at Senior Software Engineer or higher, and then they couldn't write a concrete list of expectations of the role, because so many PhDs had no experience.

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TrackerFF 4y ago

What can be said - is that recessions and hiring stops send people back to schools, and you suddenly have a lot of people with Masters degrees applying for the same jobs. Tech could very well be immune against credential inflation like that (because of the growth) - but others are not. There are industries where you don't even get interviews unless you hold a graduate degree - precisely because there are too many applicants with graduate degrees. Maybe more relevant to the niche positions within tech (data science, for example)