> So rather than a curing a lack of expressivity, complexity instead provides a marketing edge, in his opinion. His focus was educating students at ETH; the la

> So rather than a curing a lack of expressivity, complexity instead provides a marketing edge, in his opinion. His focus was educating students at ETH; the languages he created with this focus were fit for purpose; it is true that there are developers in industry who prefer complex languages for sophistication reasons; but there are also pragmatic people; even they apparently prefer Delphi over Pascal; I don't consider Delphi complex e.g. in comparison with C++11. > to me that seems like a kind of success Agree; the original languages are great and a robust basis; and e.g. Go is a very successful offspring of Oberon-2.