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It's unfalsifiable. "We don't know of any way this could happen, thus it will not happen" is not a claim that can be rebutted until it is proven wrong. "We don'

It's unfalsifiable. "We don't know of any way this could happen, thus it will not happen" is not a claim that can be rebutted until it is proven wrong. "We don't have any reason to believe thalidomide is unsafe" was another such claim.

lamontcg 4y ago
"This has never happened before in the recorded history of rheumatology and immunology" is the claim, backed up with pretty well fleshed out mechanistic theories of what happens during vaccination and how the body responds to it. It also is falsifiable. Find the side effect that falsifies it. And it has survived the prior testing of 100 years of vaccination.
- blindmute 4y ago
  The past 100 years of vaccination were not MRNA vaccines, and while their safety profile may be similar or the same, that cannot yet be known.
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    They actually can, they're not a brand new never before seen kind of magic. They're using mechanisms that viruses and vaccines have used and which we've studied for hundreds of years. We don't actually know nothing about them.
    - blindmute 4y ago
      Covid vaccines have already had multiple recalls due to unforeseen heart complications. These complications were, of course, "impossible" before they began occurring. You cannot, by definition, foresee what unforeseen complications may arise with anything. Especially something as quickly made and widely disseminated as these vaccines. There may not be any "known" way a side effect could occur after 6 months. That does not philosophically mean anything about a risk existing. A lot, and I mean a lot, of medications have no side effects until you take them for years, and then suddenly there are issues. Adderall use is correlated with Parkinsons if you take it for over a decade. Some of these are foreseeable, and some were "no known way it could happen" until it did.

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It's unfalsifiable. "We don't know of any way this could happen, thus it will not happen" is not a claim that can be rebutted until it is proven wrong. "We don'

by blindmute 4y ago

lamontcg 4y ago
"This has never happened before in the recorded history of rheumatology and immunology" is the claim, backed up with pretty well fleshed out mechanistic theories of what happens during vaccination and how the body responds to it. It also is falsifiable. Find the side effect that falsifies it. And it has survived the prior testing of 100 years of vaccination.
- blindmute 4y ago
  The past 100 years of vaccination were not MRNA vaccines, and while their safety profile may be similar or the same, that cannot yet be known.
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    They actually can, they're not a brand new never before seen kind of magic. They're using mechanisms that viruses and vaccines have used and which we've studied for hundreds of years. We don't actually know nothing about them.
    - blindmute 4y ago
      Covid vaccines have already had multiple recalls due to unforeseen heart complications. These complications were, of course, "impossible" before they began occurring. You cannot, by definition, foresee what unforeseen complications may arise with anything. Especially something as quickly made and widely disseminated as these vaccines. There may not be any "known" way a side effect could occur after 6 months. That does not philosophically mean anything about a risk existing. A lot, and I mean a lot, of medications have no side effects until you take them for years, and then suddenly there are issues. Adderall use is correlated with Parkinsons if you take it for over a decade. Some of these are foreseeable, and some were "no known way it could happen" until it did.