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100% agreed "Piloting a passenger plane should be easy" "Performing brain surgery should be easy" None of that should be easy. AWS is not meant to be focused

by Mo3 4y ago

100% agreed "Piloting a passenger plane should be easy" "Performing brain surgery should be easy" None of that should be easy. AWS is not meant to be focused on ease of use in the first place. It offers brutal power to those who know how to operate it and brutal ways to fuck up if you don’t. The shipping of applications mentioned by the comment in this thread is not a valid statement either.. there are countless services by now attempting exactly this (Firebase e.g), yet, demanding that AWS or GCP should be child's play to use shows a complete disregard for what they actually offer.. I feel like this is similar to saying "we want to build a spacecraft to transport satellites into space, but we'd love to just have two buttons to start and land the rocket" And then, even if you manage to abstract everything away to just those two buttons, someone will press it in the wrong moment and the rocket hits a plane flying above and you realize the expertise required is always required and someone who has this expertise doesn't need all of the abstraction in the first place.

vosper 4y ago
> "Piloting a passenger plane should be easy" > "Performing brain surgery should be easy" > None of that should be easy. Why shouldn't those things be easy? Wouldn't it be better if they were? It would mean more people could do it well (I'm not saying let anyone do it!) and it would presumably have come about as a result of better understanding and tooling. Imagine if people didn't die on the waitlist for the best neurosurgeon in the country, because we'd made brain surgery easier and so now all the neurosurgeons could do that one formerly-super-difficult surgery.
- Mo3 4y ago
  Because anyone trying to perform brain surgery still needs to have phenomenal understanding of the (brain) matter at hand. Sure, super-accurate robots to do the cuts and whatever are really cool, but I'd reckon they still have to be operated by someone who knows what to do.....
- SkipperCat 4y ago
  If surgery was made "easy" then it would be a one size fits all and anyone with an outlier condition would not get medical care. We train doctors to have a very deep knowledge of their discipline because when they do encounter that edge case, they need to know immediately what to do. Medical care is sometimes extremely time sensitive and you don't want the doc to have to ask his superior how to stop your bleeding.
  - petersellers 4y ago
    > If surgery was made "easy" then it would be a one size fits all and anyone with an outlier condition would not get medical care. On the contrary, I think it would be a lot easier to treat an outlier condition because doctors would have a lot more time to expand their skills and study uncommon conditions.
  - vosper 4y ago
    > If surgery was made "easy" then it would be a one size fits all and anyone with an outlier condition would not get medical care. Why would that necessarily be the case? Why wouldn't we train doctors to still know what to do, and also make it a lot easier to do it well?
    - Mo3 4y ago
      .. we are.
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by Mo3 4y ago

vosper 4y ago

> "Piloting a passenger plane should be easy" > "Performing brain surgery should be easy" > None of that should be easy. Why shouldn't those things be easy? Wouldn't it be better if they were? It would mean more people could do it well (I'm not saying let anyone do it!) and it would presumably have come about as a result of better understanding and tooling. Imagine if people didn't die on the waitlist for the best neurosurgeon in the country, because we'd made brain surgery easier and so now all the neurosurgeons could do that one formerly-super-difficult surgery.

Mo3 4y ago
Because anyone trying to perform brain surgery still needs to have phenomenal understanding of the (brain) matter at hand. Sure, super-accurate robots to do the cuts and whatever are really cool, but I'd reckon they still have to be operated by someone who knows what to do.....
SkipperCat 4y ago
If surgery was made "easy" then it would be a one size fits all and anyone with an outlier condition would not get medical care. We train doctors to have a very deep knowledge of their discipline because when they do encounter that edge case, they need to know immediately what to do. Medical care is sometimes extremely time sensitive and you don't want the doc to have to ask his superior how to stop your bleeding.
- petersellers 4y ago
  > If surgery was made "easy" then it would be a one size fits all and anyone with an outlier condition would not get medical care. On the contrary, I think it would be a lot easier to treat an outlier condition because doctors would have a lot more time to expand their skills and study uncommon conditions.
- vosper 4y ago
  > If surgery was made "easy" then it would be a one size fits all and anyone with an outlier condition would not get medical care. Why would that necessarily be the case? Why wouldn't we train doctors to still know what to do, and also make it a lot easier to do it well?
  - Mo3 4y ago
    .. we are.

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