> most people that whine about generics & performance don't know a lot about performance Really it is almost everyone who doesn't know a lot about performance

> most people that whine about generics & performance don't know a lot about performance Really it is almost everyone who doesn't know a lot about performance. Any modern programming language is targeted not at an expert, but a beginner(look at Rust which is supposed to be relatively difficult, yet is quite quick for people to pick up in my experience). Languages should be able to be performant, even when used in poor ways. No matter what, people won't presort their data, since it likely comes from some database or csv file or json response or who knows what. So a language should be trying to accommodate that use case.