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I think Milo Aukerman (of Descendents fame) earned his PhD before Greg Graffin. And before Milo, Gregg Turner (of the Angry Samoans). Though certainly Bad Relig

I think Milo Aukerman (of Descendents fame) earned his PhD before Greg Graffin. And before Milo, Gregg Turner (of the Angry Samoans). Though certainly Bad Religion are more well-known. The article does mention each of them in varying level of detail.

rurban 4y ago
And maybe Brian May (Queen, Astrophysicist, Imperial Collega) and Dan Snaith (Caribou, Math, Imperial College) deserve a mention. Did Grimes never finish?
- adfm 4y ago
  Also, Brian May built his own guitar, which is rather punk, if you’d ask me.
  - twangist 4y ago
    Well, it really rather isn't. Punks aren't renowned for musicianship and appreciation of finely crafted instruments. Most 'punks' would have little idea of what to do with a Brian May model Gretsch. But making your own guitar is rather garage, if you'd asked me, as garages are often workshops.
    - soylentcola 4y ago
      I think it was a reference to the crossover between "punk" and a DIY ethic. Although, in fairness, the concept of "punk" has meant so many different things to so many people. One person's punk is about arrogant rebellion and breaking shit. Another's is about giving a more metaphorical "middle finger" to expectations and striking your own path outside of the more commercial/disposable monoculture. At least when I was growing up, it was definitely my introduction to the "no true Scotsman" argument, but I think a level of conscious iconoclasm is inherent in any definition.
    - bytematic 4y ago
      Punk is very strongly connected with DIY. Often times you had to do it yourself because money is scarce: printing your own shirts, pressing records, setting up shows, etc.
    - adfm 4y ago
      Consider recalibrating your worldview; you’ll be glad you did. The use of ‘punk’ in this case does refer to the long-standing association with DIY, which is frequently associated with garages and workshops. Also, punk shows are up-close and personal, so you’ll definitely see names like Gretsch, Orange, Alembic, etc. if you care to look.
nunez 4y ago
Milo definitely precedes Greg and he actually used it in industry (worked at DuPont)
lawgimenez 4y ago
Yes you are right, I forgot about Milo but it seems he does not really discuss his PhD openly. I might be wrong though.

rurban 4y ago

And maybe Brian May (Queen, Astrophysicist, Imperial Collega) and Dan Snaith (Caribou, Math, Imperial College) deserve a mention. Did Grimes never finish?

adfm 4y ago
Also, Brian May built his own guitar, which is rather punk, if you’d ask me.
- twangist 4y ago
  Well, it really rather isn't. Punks aren't renowned for musicianship and appreciation of finely crafted instruments. Most 'punks' would have little idea of what to do with a Brian May model Gretsch. But making your own guitar is rather garage, if you'd asked me, as garages are often workshops.
  - soylentcola 4y ago
    I think it was a reference to the crossover between "punk" and a DIY ethic. Although, in fairness, the concept of "punk" has meant so many different things to so many people. One person's punk is about arrogant rebellion and breaking shit. Another's is about giving a more metaphorical "middle finger" to expectations and striking your own path outside of the more commercial/disposable monoculture. At least when I was growing up, it was definitely my introduction to the "no true Scotsman" argument, but I think a level of conscious iconoclasm is inherent in any definition.
  - bytematic 4y ago
    Punk is very strongly connected with DIY. Often times you had to do it yourself because money is scarce: printing your own shirts, pressing records, setting up shows, etc.
  - adfm 4y ago
    Consider recalibrating your worldview; you’ll be glad you did. The use of ‘punk’ in this case does refer to the long-standing association with DIY, which is frequently associated with garages and workshops. Also, punk shows are up-close and personal, so you’ll definitely see names like Gretsch, Orange, Alembic, etc. if you care to look.

nunez 4y ago

Milo definitely precedes Greg and he actually used it in industry (worked at DuPont)

lawgimenez 4y ago

Yes you are right, I forgot about Milo but it seems he does not really discuss his PhD openly. I might be wrong though.