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I will never go back to fixed unsplit keyboard again. I much prefer split ergo keyboards, eg https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.

I will never go back to fixed unsplit keyboard again. I much prefer split ergo keyboards, eg https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ or its non gaming version

jason2323 4y ago
Just made the switch to Ergodox EZ so looking forward to that
leohonexus 4y ago
How are they on a day to day basis? I’m thinking on getting one but not sure how big of an upgrade it is from unsplit ones.
- xqcgrek2 4y ago
  Huge different especially if you tent them. I have large hands and always also felt cramped on unsplit keyboards but not on split keyboards
- MivLives 4y ago
  Been using one for over two years now. They're great, but I'd say go for one that isn't row staggered (the keys don't line up vertically in columns).
  - samatman 4y ago
    I'd like to add nuance to this advice. For reasons I don't understand, ortholinear is either a Really Big Deal or it just... isn't. I'm the latter. Switching to the ErgoDox layout took some doing, it's been an iterative process of tweaking the layout, but actually typing on linear keys was a transition I barely noticed. For different brains it's a complete showstopper and they have to learn how to type again, for many people that won't be worth it. I prefer typing on linear keyboards. There is unfortunately little way to tell which camp you're in without trying for yourself.
    - MivLives 4y ago
      ErgoDox isn't actually ortholinear, it's columnar. Ortholinear is just a straight grid of buttons. Columnar is what most split ergo boards are. Having used one I don't find ortholinear very good feeling without a split, as it makes your wrists go in a weird angle. I sorta transitioned in via way of an ortholinear which I think helped a bunch. Rather then going from a normal board to a splitergo, I used a preonic for a few months first. I have let others use my split board, and I've seen what you're talking about. Some people are able to adjust pretty easily, others just panic. The harder part is all the weird thumb buttons they have to use (backspace, enter, and [] are all thumb buttons for me) For any one worrying you lose skill in other layouts when you switch, I haven't found that to be the case. For the most part I can transition back to a laptop keyboard pretty easily and only attempt to hit certain buttons that aren't there once or twice in the first few minutes.
      - samatman 4y ago
        It's an ortholinear split key board. https://switchandclick.com/best-ortholinear-keyboards/ https://switchandclick.com/best-ortholinear-keyboards/ Here's another one https://dygma.com/blogs/product-development/new-ortholinear-keyboard https://dygma.com/blogs/product-development/new-ortholinear-... These are all what you're trying to say is only called 'columnar' because the vertical is staggered but the horizontal is straight. As I hope I've demonstrated, in practice your criticism is without basis, these boards are described by their own manufacturers as ortholinear.
- cestith 4y ago
  I've been using Keyboard.io Model 01 boards for a few years now as my daily drivers for typing, ever since they arrived from backing the Kickstarter campaign. For my broad-shouldered build, the split has been good for my shoulders, elbows, wrists and fingers while the ortholinear key arrangement seems to be good for my wrists and fingers as well. Those shipped with Mathias Quiet Click (or optionally Clicky) switches soldered. I like them enough I've also backed the Model 100 for two boards. These boards are socketed and have a wider variety of switches available. The top enclosure has also switched from maple to walnut. https://shop.keyboard.io/ https://shop.keyboard.io/
  - perrylaj 4y ago
    I'm in the same boat - backed the original Kickstarter for the 01, bought a second to keep at the office, and have a 100 on order through the more recent Kickstarter. Took a bit of getting used to, but I really enjoy them. My biggest complaints were handled with the model 100 (serviceability), looking forward to the new one arriving.
jack_daniels 4y ago
Intrigued by these split keyboards but I really want a board with low profile switches.
_ph_ 4y ago
That looks like my dream keyboard - except it isn't available with an ISO layout :(
- darau1 4y ago
  What you're looking for is almost definitely deeper down the rabbit hole[1]. The problem will be getting it. [1]: https://github.com/diimdeep/awesome-split-keyboards https://github.com/diimdeep/awesome-split-keyboards
  - _ph_ 4y ago
    Which one are you referring to?
    - darau1 4y ago
      None in particular. Your only requirement AFAIK is that your dream keyboard be split, and use the ISO layout. I don't know what the ISO layout is, but I can't imagine any of those keyboards couldn't accommodate it with(out) some tinkering.
      - _ph_ 4y ago
        Thanks, I thought you had spotted a certain model. Yes, split and ISO are a mandatory requirement, but I like the rgb lighting in that keyboard. Unfortunately, ANSI and ISO are physical different key arrangements, even if thy differ only by a few keys: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Physical_keyboard_layouts_comparison_ANSI_ISO_(de).png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Physical_keyboard_la...

I will never go back to fixed unsplit keyboard again. I much prefer split ergo keyboards, eg https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ or its non gaming version

jason2323 4y ago

Just made the switch to Ergodox EZ so looking forward to that

leohonexus 4y ago

How are they on a day to day basis? I’m thinking on getting one but not sure how big of an upgrade it is from unsplit ones.

xqcgrek2 4y ago
Huge different especially if you tent them. I have large hands and always also felt cramped on unsplit keyboards but not on split keyboards
MivLives 4y ago
Been using one for over two years now. They're great, but I'd say go for one that isn't row staggered (the keys don't line up vertically in columns).
- samatman 4y ago
  I'd like to add nuance to this advice. For reasons I don't understand, ortholinear is either a Really Big Deal or it just... isn't. I'm the latter. Switching to the ErgoDox layout took some doing, it's been an iterative process of tweaking the layout, but actually typing on linear keys was a transition I barely noticed. For different brains it's a complete showstopper and they have to learn how to type again, for many people that won't be worth it. I prefer typing on linear keyboards. There is unfortunately little way to tell which camp you're in without trying for yourself.
  - MivLives 4y ago
    ErgoDox isn't actually ortholinear, it's columnar. Ortholinear is just a straight grid of buttons. Columnar is what most split ergo boards are. Having used one I don't find ortholinear very good feeling without a split, as it makes your wrists go in a weird angle. I sorta transitioned in via way of an ortholinear which I think helped a bunch. Rather then going from a normal board to a splitergo, I used a preonic for a few months first. I have let others use my split board, and I've seen what you're talking about. Some people are able to adjust pretty easily, others just panic. The harder part is all the weird thumb buttons they have to use (backspace, enter, and [] are all thumb buttons for me) For any one worrying you lose skill in other layouts when you switch, I haven't found that to be the case. For the most part I can transition back to a laptop keyboard pretty easily and only attempt to hit certain buttons that aren't there once or twice in the first few minutes.
    - samatman 4y ago
      It's an ortholinear split key board. https://switchandclick.com/best-ortholinear-keyboards/ https://switchandclick.com/best-ortholinear-keyboards/ Here's another one https://dygma.com/blogs/product-development/new-ortholinear-keyboard https://dygma.com/blogs/product-development/new-ortholinear-... These are all what you're trying to say is only called 'columnar' because the vertical is staggered but the horizontal is straight. As I hope I've demonstrated, in practice your criticism is without basis, these boards are described by their own manufacturers as ortholinear.
cestith 4y ago
I've been using Keyboard.io Model 01 boards for a few years now as my daily drivers for typing, ever since they arrived from backing the Kickstarter campaign. For my broad-shouldered build, the split has been good for my shoulders, elbows, wrists and fingers while the ortholinear key arrangement seems to be good for my wrists and fingers as well. Those shipped with Mathias Quiet Click (or optionally Clicky) switches soldered. I like them enough I've also backed the Model 100 for two boards. These boards are socketed and have a wider variety of switches available. The top enclosure has also switched from maple to walnut. https://shop.keyboard.io/ https://shop.keyboard.io/
- perrylaj 4y ago
  I'm in the same boat - backed the original Kickstarter for the 01, bought a second to keep at the office, and have a 100 on order through the more recent Kickstarter. Took a bit of getting used to, but I really enjoy them. My biggest complaints were handled with the model 100 (serviceability), looking forward to the new one arriving.

jack_daniels 4y ago

Intrigued by these split keyboards but I really want a board with low profile switches.

_ph_ 4y ago

That looks like my dream keyboard - except it isn't available with an ISO layout :(

darau1 4y ago
What you're looking for is almost definitely deeper down the rabbit hole[1]. The problem will be getting it. [1]: https://github.com/diimdeep/awesome-split-keyboards https://github.com/diimdeep/awesome-split-keyboards
- _ph_ 4y ago
  Which one are you referring to?
  - darau1 4y ago
    None in particular. Your only requirement AFAIK is that your dream keyboard be split, and use the ISO layout. I don't know what the ISO layout is, but I can't imagine any of those keyboards couldn't accommodate it with(out) some tinkering.
    - _ph_ 4y ago
      Thanks, I thought you had spotted a certain model. Yes, split and ISO are a mandatory requirement, but I like the rgb lighting in that keyboard. Unfortunately, ANSI and ISO are physical different key arrangements, even if thy differ only by a few keys: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Physical_keyboard_layouts_comparison_ANSI_ISO_(de).png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Physical_keyboard_la...