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I grew up with a Miele vacuum cleaner (my parents were all about Miele). Only disadvantage is they last so long that newer hardware is potentially more energy e

by Fnoord 4y ago

I grew up with a Miele vacuum cleaner (my parents were all about Miele). Only disadvantage is they last so long that newer hardware is potentially more energy efficient. I don't get the point of wireless vacuum cleaner except autonomic ones and in niches where you don't have electricity (like an area where the electricity is often down). Having recently owned some different brands (Samsung, Beko) which broke down got us back te Miele again.

Shaanie 4y ago
Have you ever used a wireless vacuum? It may sound stupid, but it saves significant time and effort over a conventional vacuum; taking the clunky vacuum out, plugging it in, unplugging it and putting it back means it takes (much) more than twice as long to do spot vacuuming. Personally I'm never going back to a corded vacuum if I can avoid it.
- PetitPrince 4y ago
  This! The friction to use a cordless vacuum is very low compared to a corded one. And consequently, vacuuming change from being a chore that's done once few weeks for a an hour to some short 5-10 minutes burst every few days.
- wlesieutre 4y ago
  Not even mentioning the cord management? You just vacuum where you want to vacuum and don’t have to drag a cord behind you and throw it around to keep it out of the way of being run over.
- mr-debil 4y ago
  They're talking Miele, which most likely means canister vacuums. The two of you have very different mentality / approaches to vacuuming...and that's totally OK.
Gigachad 4y ago
I switched from a Dyson corded vacuum to a Samsung battery powered one and it’s amazing. I’ll never go back to wired vacuums. My parents have a Dyson battery powered one and it is garbage.
- oxplot 4y ago
  Dyson constantly improved their cordless vacuums in the past 6 years. I have a V10 which is leaps and bounds better than V7. The battery runs forever, the bin is larger and empties cleanly without meddling, has a great weight distribution and it's more powerful.
  - thinkmassive 4y ago
    Even with newer models available, the V10 still seems to hit the sweet spot of high performance without extra weight. The newer models offer larger batteries and debris capacity, and higher power (suction), but as you mentioned the V10 has been plenty for my household, so they don’t seem worth the extra weight let alone expense. I previously had a V7 that worked well enough in a smaller home for a few years. After the battery started deteriorating I replaced it with an aftermarket one, but that was slightly larger so it no longer fit in the charging dock. Now the V7 lives in a campervan where it’s still plenty useful.
Consultant32452 4y ago
I have one of each and the cordless is the go-to for spot cleaning spills and vacuuming the stairs. My Miele canister vacuum is amazing, but a relative hassle.
blagie 4y ago
I'll be the contrarian. I have a Roomba and a Dyson cordless. I'm very happy, and my home is much cleaner than with my old industrial-grade vacuum: - The Roomba goes once a day. It doesn't pick up much in one pass, but my house is much cleaner because it runs all the time. Covering the same spot many times, it does well. - The Dyson cleans very well, and picks up all the places the Roomba doesn't get to or emergency spills. It's never run out of batteries. On the whole, it's less effort and cleaner than with my old big'un vacuum. And if I want to do a deep clean, I'd rather wash in either case.
- germinalphrase 4y ago
  I’ve always been interested in Roombas for this use case, but reviews have always pointed toward “fun for a hobbiest, but utility doesn’t outweigh drawbacks”. Have they gotten better in recent years?
  - blagie 4y ago
    I don't know what older Roombas were like, but mine does a really good job. It doesn't pick up a lot of trash on one pass, but it makes many passes. Even with many passes, it sometimes misses stuff that my old big vacuum would have picked up, but I run it every day or every other day. The carpets stay really, really clean. A side benefit -- to me -- is that I need to keep the floors Roomba-ready. If you leave laundry, cables, etc. on the floor, you've got a problem. YMMV if you have family; with some visitors, I can't use the Roomba at all.
- Lio 4y ago
  One thing to keep in mind is filtration. I currently own a Dyson cordless for vacuuming the mattress when I change the sheets, a Bosch class M industrial vacuum and a Miele from before the dawn of time. I’ve previously owned a Roomba. I have the Bosch as a workshop vacuum and if I need to clean up something I don’t want blowing back into the air it’s the one I use. Eg brick dust or MDF dust. Both my Dyson and my old Roomba were bagless and when you empty them it goes all over place. I also don’t trust the filtering on them. They say hepa filters but that doesn’t mean it’s not leakng out case somewhere. You only get one set of lungs so if it maters to you get something better than a Dyson. My Miele still works well but I don’t trust the filtering on thar either.
oxplot 4y ago
> I don't get the point of wireless vacuum cleaner The point of anything cordless is how it eliminates the hassle of, well, dealing with cords. In case of a vacuum cleaner, one has to: - pull the cord out - plug and re-plug it - ensure it doesn't get stuck around the corners and under furniture legs - ensure it doesn't pull some other furniture and topple them over In addition, corded vacuums have practically no power envelope or weight restrictions, so they end up being bulky, heavy and loud, even if the context in which they are used doesn't require the power. Dyson cordless (I can't speak to any other) in contrast: - weighs lot less and can be carried around with ease - can be moved around without a second thought of where the cord is or whether it can be maneuvered in a certain way - is a lot quieter (can be used at night) - is instantly accessible without any setup so it makes sense to use it for a few seconds to clean something up - can be used outside of the house where there is no power outlet - e.g. in the car in a rental apartment parking Since I switched to cordless (which has been 6 years or so), I no longer dread vacuuming. It's actually a pleasant experience and sometimes, when I get a few minutes, I do a clean of areas that get dirty often (entrance). The battery life and the power available have improved to the point where it's no longer something I worry about (especially for my two bedroom apartment).
- hetspookjee 4y ago
  You most definitely cannot use the Dyson V7 at night as it’s really loud, especially noticeable is the very high pitched sound.
  - oxplot 4y ago
    I pack a V10 :) - Also, I didn't mean using it at night next to someone sleeping. But rather, as not to awaken your neighbors.
- esaym 4y ago
  I've never used or even looked at Dyson, but the problem with most vacuums is how the vacuum itself slowly falls apart until it is no longer usable (even though the motor still has years of life left). For years I rocked a 1986 rainbow I bought off of ebay in 2003 for $200. But found myself using it less and less since it is big and you have to fill it with water each time. Bought a Shark upright that I used in between my more thorough weekly rainbow vacuumings. But the shark was slowly falling apart, and you can't buy replacement parts and there are so many models, that finding used parts is not really possible either. So I did the "buy once, cry once" routine and bought a Sebo E2 canister. Like many other European brands, parts are easily available and you no longer have a disposable product which is a win in my case.
cronix 4y ago
Funnily enough, the cord was the thing that eventually wore out due to normal use and needed to be replaced several times on all of our vacuums growing up. It's trivial to fix, but most don't know how and didn't want to lug a big heavy vacuum to a repair shop and just end up getting a new vacuum. I enjoy not tripping all over a cord or constantly having to tug it out of the way of where I want to vacuum. I enjoy not having to constantly plug/unplug it while moving from room to room when I run out of cord. I enjoy not having to wind the cord up after every use. It's so easy to clean the car and not have to weave the cord everywhere. I enjoy not having wear marks from the cord in the paint of the floor trim, which happens a lot in doorways as they protrude inward from the wall, or any time you go around a corner and pull the cord.
brnt 4y ago
Bought a house with a 30 year old Siematic kitchen... it all works, but maybe after 30 years you dont need it to work anymore. It's loud and not very energy efficient, and 30 years will leave some grime in places where toothbrushes don't go. Our next kitchen won't be a Siematic.

by Fnoord 4y ago

Shaanie 4y ago

Have you ever used a wireless vacuum? It may sound stupid, but it saves significant time and effort over a conventional vacuum; taking the clunky vacuum out, plugging it in, unplugging it and putting it back means it takes (much) more than twice as long to do spot vacuuming. Personally I'm never going back to a corded vacuum if I can avoid it.

PetitPrince 4y ago
This! The friction to use a cordless vacuum is very low compared to a corded one. And consequently, vacuuming change from being a chore that's done once few weeks for a an hour to some short 5-10 minutes burst every few days.
wlesieutre 4y ago
Not even mentioning the cord management? You just vacuum where you want to vacuum and don’t have to drag a cord behind you and throw it around to keep it out of the way of being run over.
mr-debil 4y ago
They're talking Miele, which most likely means canister vacuums. The two of you have very different mentality / approaches to vacuuming...and that's totally OK.

Gigachad 4y ago

I switched from a Dyson corded vacuum to a Samsung battery powered one and it’s amazing. I’ll never go back to wired vacuums. My parents have a Dyson battery powered one and it is garbage.

oxplot 4y ago
Dyson constantly improved their cordless vacuums in the past 6 years. I have a V10 which is leaps and bounds better than V7. The battery runs forever, the bin is larger and empties cleanly without meddling, has a great weight distribution and it's more powerful.
- thinkmassive 4y ago
  Even with newer models available, the V10 still seems to hit the sweet spot of high performance without extra weight. The newer models offer larger batteries and debris capacity, and higher power (suction), but as you mentioned the V10 has been plenty for my household, so they don’t seem worth the extra weight let alone expense. I previously had a V7 that worked well enough in a smaller home for a few years. After the battery started deteriorating I replaced it with an aftermarket one, but that was slightly larger so it no longer fit in the charging dock. Now the V7 lives in a campervan where it’s still plenty useful.

Consultant32452 4y ago

I have one of each and the cordless is the go-to for spot cleaning spills and vacuuming the stairs. My Miele canister vacuum is amazing, but a relative hassle.

blagie 4y ago

I'll be the contrarian. I have a Roomba and a Dyson cordless. I'm very happy, and my home is much cleaner than with my old industrial-grade vacuum: - The Roomba goes once a day. It doesn't pick up much in one pass, but my house is much cleaner because it runs all the time. Covering the same spot many times, it does well. - The Dyson cleans very well, and picks up all the places the Roomba doesn't get to or emergency spills. It's never run out of batteries. On the whole, it's less effort and cleaner than with my old big'un vacuum. And if I want to do a deep clean, I'd rather wash in either case.

germinalphrase 4y ago
I’ve always been interested in Roombas for this use case, but reviews have always pointed toward “fun for a hobbiest, but utility doesn’t outweigh drawbacks”. Have they gotten better in recent years?
- blagie 4y ago
  I don't know what older Roombas were like, but mine does a really good job. It doesn't pick up a lot of trash on one pass, but it makes many passes. Even with many passes, it sometimes misses stuff that my old big vacuum would have picked up, but I run it every day or every other day. The carpets stay really, really clean. A side benefit -- to me -- is that I need to keep the floors Roomba-ready. If you leave laundry, cables, etc. on the floor, you've got a problem. YMMV if you have family; with some visitors, I can't use the Roomba at all.
Lio 4y ago
One thing to keep in mind is filtration. I currently own a Dyson cordless for vacuuming the mattress when I change the sheets, a Bosch class M industrial vacuum and a Miele from before the dawn of time. I’ve previously owned a Roomba. I have the Bosch as a workshop vacuum and if I need to clean up something I don’t want blowing back into the air it’s the one I use. Eg brick dust or MDF dust. Both my Dyson and my old Roomba were bagless and when you empty them it goes all over place. I also don’t trust the filtering on them. They say hepa filters but that doesn’t mean it’s not leakng out case somewhere. You only get one set of lungs so if it maters to you get something better than a Dyson. My Miele still works well but I don’t trust the filtering on thar either.

oxplot 4y ago

> I don't get the point of wireless vacuum cleaner The point of anything cordless is how it eliminates the hassle of, well, dealing with cords. In case of a vacuum cleaner, one has to: - pull the cord out - plug and re-plug it - ensure it doesn't get stuck around the corners and under furniture legs - ensure it doesn't pull some other furniture and topple them over In addition, corded vacuums have practically no power envelope or weight restrictions, so they end up being bulky, heavy and loud, even if the context in which they are used doesn't require the power. Dyson cordless (I can't speak to any other) in contrast: - weighs lot less and can be carried around with ease - can be moved around without a second thought of where the cord is or whether it can be maneuvered in a certain way - is a lot quieter (can be used at night) - is instantly accessible without any setup so it makes sense to use it for a few seconds to clean something up - can be used outside of the house where there is no power outlet - e.g. in the car in a rental apartment parking Since I switched to cordless (which has been 6 years or so), I no longer dread vacuuming. It's actually a pleasant experience and sometimes, when I get a few minutes, I do a clean of areas that get dirty often (entrance). The battery life and the power available have improved to the point where it's no longer something I worry about (especially for my two bedroom apartment).

hetspookjee 4y ago
You most definitely cannot use the Dyson V7 at night as it’s really loud, especially noticeable is the very high pitched sound.
- oxplot 4y ago
  I pack a V10 :) - Also, I didn't mean using it at night next to someone sleeping. But rather, as not to awaken your neighbors.
esaym 4y ago
I've never used or even looked at Dyson, but the problem with most vacuums is how the vacuum itself slowly falls apart until it is no longer usable (even though the motor still has years of life left). For years I rocked a 1986 rainbow I bought off of ebay in 2003 for $200. But found myself using it less and less since it is big and you have to fill it with water each time. Bought a Shark upright that I used in between my more thorough weekly rainbow vacuumings. But the shark was slowly falling apart, and you can't buy replacement parts and there are so many models, that finding used parts is not really possible either. So I did the "buy once, cry once" routine and bought a Sebo E2 canister. Like many other European brands, parts are easily available and you no longer have a disposable product which is a win in my case.

cronix 4y ago

Funnily enough, the cord was the thing that eventually wore out due to normal use and needed to be replaced several times on all of our vacuums growing up. It's trivial to fix, but most don't know how and didn't want to lug a big heavy vacuum to a repair shop and just end up getting a new vacuum. I enjoy not tripping all over a cord or constantly having to tug it out of the way of where I want to vacuum. I enjoy not having to constantly plug/unplug it while moving from room to room when I run out of cord. I enjoy not having to wind the cord up after every use. It's so easy to clean the car and not have to weave the cord everywhere. I enjoy not having wear marks from the cord in the paint of the floor trim, which happens a lot in doorways as they protrude inward from the wall, or any time you go around a corner and pull the cord.

brnt 4y ago

Bought a house with a 30 year old Siematic kitchen... it all works, but maybe after 30 years you dont need it to work anymore. It's loud and not very energy efficient, and 30 years will leave some grime in places where toothbrushes don't go. Our next kitchen won't be a Siematic.