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Fortunately I don't have to write laws or adjudicate these things. I simply cannot draw a line at X number of beers, or whatever other arbitrary thing. Were the
by smolder 4y ago
Fortunately I don't have to write laws or adjudicate these things. I simply cannot draw a line at X number of beers, or whatever other arbitrary thing. Were they walking straight on their own and talking without slurred speech when they left or were they stumbling out? Did they go out specifically with intent to get laid by a stranger they haven't met yet? Did the would-be rapist encourage them to drink more, or order them strong drinks on purpose? Lots of factors would affect my opinion on whether it was a predatory situation or not. I think I would tend to believe victims are victims, though not if there are clues they are just playing one and using the sexual encounter as a weapon.
- bowsamic 4y agoBut, how are you going to make the decision in the future whether or not someone is sober enough to have sex with? > Did the would-be rapist encourage them to drink more, or order them strong drinks on purpose? That isn't the criteria, the criteria is whether or not the victim is too drunk to consent. How can you know this? > I think I would tend to believe victims are victims I don't think you would if you were the rapist who had misjudged the drunkenness of the other person
- smolder 4y agoI was here to tell you that non-sobriety doesn't always imply rape, which you claimed it did. Then I told you about how I am fortunate not to have to draw the actual line that determines what is rape legally, because it is hard to do. So, naturally I'm not interested in following this line of hypotheticals. I've never personally had issues identifying consent, never been accused of rape. Maybe I've been lucky, maybe I've made the right choices regarding partners. It's beside the point that I came to make. You seem to have made yours as well.
- ncmncm 4y agoI had a friend, around that time, who some years before had some sort of disagreement with some guy. That guy's girlfriend filed a rape charge against my friend. He was convicted and served seven years, solely on her say-so.