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Nobody has enough asw weapons, and probably can't afford to build enough, quickly enough individual asw missiles, to take out even 15% of starlink. They launche

Nobody has enough asw weapons, and probably can't afford to build enough, quickly enough individual asw missiles, to take out even 15% of starlink. They launched four batches of 53 satellites each just in May and the month hasn't ended yet. Additionally the US and NATO would see an act like that as barely one step below declaring nuclear war.

vkou 4y ago
People with ASW don't want to use them against Starlink, they want to use them against spy satellites. Starlink would just be collateral damage. If anyone in NATO considers blowing up satellites to be one step below killing hundreds of millions of people, I want that person fired. Because they have completely lost touch with reality, and should not be allowed anywhere near a weapon, or a job where they manage people with weapons.
- thinkcontext 4y ago
  Ukraine is using Starlink to control drones and Russia has tried jamming the service. Given that its not outlandish to contemplate Russia escalating. They might destroy one and say they'll do worse unless Ukraine is kicked off. The reason taking out spy satellites is taken so seriously is it is considered a likely prelude to an attack.
  - vkou 4y ago
    Are spy satellites actually intended to detect ongoing icmb attacks? Isn't the overwhelming majority of that job done by ground and sea-based radar stations?
    - thinkcontext 4y ago
      Though there are certainly land and sea based systems, satellites will see launches from interior Russia first.
      - vkou 4y ago
        There is no meaningful difference between detecting a launch from Siberia, and detecting it once it's over the Bering sea. Either way, everyone on both sides will die.
    - walrus01 4y ago
      There are dedicated purpose infrared sensor missile launch warning sats owned and run by USA and Russia and China. In addition to other radar systems.
thinkcontext 4y ago
I wonder how many Starlink sats one would have to take out to start a cascade to destroy the usefulness of the constellation? Of course there would be a lot of other collateral damage. I'm sure people are wargaming this.

vkou 4y ago

People with ASW don't want to use them against Starlink, they want to use them against spy satellites. Starlink would just be collateral damage. If anyone in NATO considers blowing up satellites to be one step below killing hundreds of millions of people, I want that person fired. Because they have completely lost touch with reality, and should not be allowed anywhere near a weapon, or a job where they manage people with weapons.

thinkcontext 4y ago
Ukraine is using Starlink to control drones and Russia has tried jamming the service. Given that its not outlandish to contemplate Russia escalating. They might destroy one and say they'll do worse unless Ukraine is kicked off. The reason taking out spy satellites is taken so seriously is it is considered a likely prelude to an attack.
- vkou 4y ago
  Are spy satellites actually intended to detect ongoing icmb attacks? Isn't the overwhelming majority of that job done by ground and sea-based radar stations?
  - thinkcontext 4y ago
    Though there are certainly land and sea based systems, satellites will see launches from interior Russia first.
    - vkou 4y ago
      There is no meaningful difference between detecting a launch from Siberia, and detecting it once it's over the Bering sea. Either way, everyone on both sides will die.
  - walrus01 4y ago
    There are dedicated purpose infrared sensor missile launch warning sats owned and run by USA and Russia and China. In addition to other radar systems.

thinkcontext 4y ago

I wonder how many Starlink sats one would have to take out to start a cascade to destroy the usefulness of the constellation? Of course there would be a lot of other collateral damage. I'm sure people are wargaming this.