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> Lithium batteries are heavily used outside EVs since more than a decade, witch means we have many "recyclable material" since years, did you know just how man
by mlindner 4y ago
> Lithium batteries are heavily used outside EVs since more than a decade, witch means we have many "recyclable material" since years, did you know just how many UPSes we sent to landfills any years? How many used mobile phones? ... So sorry, no that's propaganda, not reality, in reality the small companies you mentions are just small startups hyper-funded by Green New Deal giants who want to show them as profitable, but they aren't.
EVs use dramatically more lithium ion material than had ever before even considered. Also small batteries as a portion of their total mass have a lot more packaging material (like plastics) that require manual work to separate from the battery metals. Larger batteries that are more uniform are easier to automatically disassemble.
There is no "Green New Deal". That failed. These companies say they're profitable even without subsidies.
> They are already there
No they aren't. Sure you can strap some high power jet turbines on to a car and call it a flying car, but that doesn't make it any quieter nor does it make it safe.
- kkfx 4y agoSome data https://s3.i-micronews.com/uploads/2020/07/YDR20092_Li-ion_Battery_Recycling_Trends_2020_flyer.pdf https://s3.i-micronews.com/uploads/2020/07/YDR20092_Li-ion_B... and https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220105-lithium-batteries-big-unanswered-question https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220105-lithium-batterie... About flying cars https://www.beta.team/ https://www.beta.team/ https://www.archer.com/ https://www.archer.com/ https://www.jobyaviation.com/ https://www.jobyaviation.com/ https://lilium.com/ https://lilium.com/ https://www.urbanaero.com/ https://www.urbanaero.com/ https://vertical-aerospace.com/ https://vertical-aerospace.com/ https://wisk.aero/ https://wisk.aero/ https://www.jetsonaero.com/ https://www.jetsonaero.com/ https://evtol.news/ehang-216/ https://evtol.news/ehang-216/ https://www.airbus.com/en/innovation/zero-emission/urban-air-mobility/cityairbus-nextgen https://www.airbus.com/en/innovation/zero-emission/urban-air... https://www.volocopter.com/ https://www.volocopter.com/ Just to show some producers, and those are ONLY eVTOL models. This report is not bad https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/nl/Documents/consumer-business/deloitte-nl-cip-elevating-the-future-of-mobility.pdf https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/nl/Documents/... so is classic BBC https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201111-the-flying-car-is-here-vtols-jetpacks-and-air-taxis https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201111-the-flying-car-i... some other random picked https://asiatimes.com/2021/06/virgin-atlantic-going-vertical-with-flying-taxi-pact/ https://asiatimes.com/2021/06/virgin-atlantic-going-vertical... and http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201111000877 http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201111000877 or https://tass.com/economy/1395363 https://tass.com/economy/1395363 or https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/03/europe-moves-closer-to-making-vtol-air-taxis-a-reality/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/03/europe-moves-closer-to-mak... Some official info https://www.easa.europa.eu/light/topics/urban-air-mobility https://www.easa.europa.eu/light/topics/urban-air-mobility