>>Yes, wolves howl together. Dolphins communicate and socialize. Chimpanzees and dogs display complex emotions. But the order of magnitude of complexity is nowh

>>Yes, wolves howl together. Dolphins communicate and socialize. Chimpanzees and dogs display complex emotions. But the order of magnitude of complexity is nowhere even close to humanity's consciousness. You've made my point quite well, the difference is in degree, not kind. I think other forms of life have internal experiences that are similar to yours or mine. I also think the natural observation would be that our internal processes are more complex, vastly so in some cases. I also think that the reason that we draw the border such that man is one one side and all other life on another is theological in origin. Christian theology would need to defend man's place in the cosmos. I cannot think of any question from nature that would need this answer however. Does that make sense? We don't typically see a trend or pattern and draw some cutoff point on it without good reason, and I don't see what the good reason would be in this case.