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>Well, here in San Francisco you can access both relatively easily. It's no surprise that San Francisco is attractive to a certain kind of lifestylist. But whe

by scythe 4y ago

>Well, here in San Francisco you can access both relatively easily. It's no surprise that San Francisco is attractive to a certain kind of lifestylist. But when you look at the country you have 2 million addicts and only 400k on methadone. I find it very hard to believe that the average methadone clinic is running at 20% capacity. https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/forefront.20190920.981503/full/ https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/forefront.20190920....

rahimnathwani 4y ago
"SF still has coercive policies. You think having the cops take your tent and all your stuff isn't coercive?" Except that's not what happens. The group of tents closest to my home ~2 years ago is still there. And it's no longer the nearest.
- scythe 4y ago
  Commenters are so weird. 90% of the effort in that comment went into the first paragraph and guess what people responded to? It's gone. It's not worth arguing.
  - rahimnathwani 4y ago
    "Commenters are so weird." "It's not worth arguing." In cases where it's not worth arguing, it's usually not worth mounting an ad hominem attack, either.
    - scythe 4y ago
      The poster I responded to asserted some utter nonsense about a serious issue. I provided a source refuting those claims. That is what is worth discussing. The reality is that there isn't enough opioid treatment access. Whether this is true in SF specifically, I didn't find a source confirming or the opposite. Your claim that tents aren't being removed isn't true either. https://www.sfexaminer.com/findings/tent-dwellings-are-down-in-the-tenderloin-but-rising-across-the-city/ https://www.sfexaminer.com/findings/tent-dwellings-are-down-... It's plausible that enforcement in SF is lighter than what is efficient (prison overcrowding will do that), but the claim that it isn't happening is, again, false.
      - rahimnathwani 4y ago
        "The poster I responded to asserted some utter nonsense about a serious issue." Your comment "commenters are so weird" was a reply to my comment, so presumably was directed at me. I didn't assert "some utter nonsense". "Your claim that tents aren't being removed isn't true either." The article you linked says that tents are being removed from the Tenderloin, so that they can be relocated to other areas of the city. So, unless you live in the Tenderloin (a small % of SF), your experience will be just like mine: tents are permanent and are not being removed by the police.

by scythe 4y ago

rahimnathwani 4y ago

"SF still has coercive policies. You think having the cops take your tent and all your stuff isn't coercive?" Except that's not what happens. The group of tents closest to my home ~2 years ago is still there. And it's no longer the nearest.

scythe 4y ago
Commenters are so weird. 90% of the effort in that comment went into the first paragraph and guess what people responded to? It's gone. It's not worth arguing.
- rahimnathwani 4y ago
  "Commenters are so weird." "It's not worth arguing." In cases where it's not worth arguing, it's usually not worth mounting an ad hominem attack, either.
  - scythe 4y ago
    The poster I responded to asserted some utter nonsense about a serious issue. I provided a source refuting those claims. That is what is worth discussing. The reality is that there isn't enough opioid treatment access. Whether this is true in SF specifically, I didn't find a source confirming or the opposite. Your claim that tents aren't being removed isn't true either. https://www.sfexaminer.com/findings/tent-dwellings-are-down-in-the-tenderloin-but-rising-across-the-city/ https://www.sfexaminer.com/findings/tent-dwellings-are-down-... It's plausible that enforcement in SF is lighter than what is efficient (prison overcrowding will do that), but the claim that it isn't happening is, again, false.
    - rahimnathwani 4y ago
      "The poster I responded to asserted some utter nonsense about a serious issue." Your comment "commenters are so weird" was a reply to my comment, so presumably was directed at me. I didn't assert "some utter nonsense". "Your claim that tents aren't being removed isn't true either." The article you linked says that tents are being removed from the Tenderloin, so that they can be relocated to other areas of the city. So, unless you live in the Tenderloin (a small % of SF), your experience will be just like mine: tents are permanent and are not being removed by the police.