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This argument falls down when talking about sending American troops to any situation, however. Not sending troops in would be a passive lack of support. Sending

This argument falls down when talking about sending American troops to any situation, however. Not sending troops in would be a passive lack of support. Sending in troops would be the active killing, on a national level.

swat535 4y ago
The counter argument to that is: If pro lifers are assuming that a fetus is indeed a living human being, then it follows that the child is completely innocent and its survival is completely dependent on the mother. A soldier signing up for the army knows very well what he is up against..
- UnpossibleJim 4y ago
  https://kjzz.org/content/1777360/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-says-his-pro-life-stance-applies-abortions-not-death-penalty https://kjzz.org/content/1777360/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-says... And yet here is Governor Ducy arguing for an arguably mentally incompetent man to be put to death for the murder of an innocent child. While, yes, the crime is egregious, and he should never be set free from his cell... Do you think that it is, indeed "pro-life" to argue, as quite a few do, to argue for the death penalty as a form of punishment (I won't say many - this truly does split the movement. Catholics especially - Ducy is a poor representative, but Republican politicians are overwhelmingly pro death penalty, anti abortion). A strong case can be made that the people who are executed suffer from severe mental illness and are not capable of telling right from wrong in any true form. Sociopaths who lack the education or means to make it to Wall Street, as it were. Just so you know, I'm not trying to be argumentative to be argumentative. You guys being very polite and I enjoy these conversations =) If you get sick of it, just stop responding, no hard feelings =) EDIT: grammar is hard
  - recursive 4y ago
    I'm not sure how that position can be reconciled with "pro-life". It seems like a direct conflict to me. So, I'm agreeing with you about Ducy.

swat535 4y ago

The counter argument to that is: If pro lifers are assuming that a fetus is indeed a living human being, then it follows that the child is completely innocent and its survival is completely dependent on the mother. A soldier signing up for the army knows very well what he is up against..

UnpossibleJim 4y ago
https://kjzz.org/content/1777360/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-says-his-pro-life-stance-applies-abortions-not-death-penalty https://kjzz.org/content/1777360/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-says... And yet here is Governor Ducy arguing for an arguably mentally incompetent man to be put to death for the murder of an innocent child. While, yes, the crime is egregious, and he should never be set free from his cell... Do you think that it is, indeed "pro-life" to argue, as quite a few do, to argue for the death penalty as a form of punishment (I won't say many - this truly does split the movement. Catholics especially - Ducy is a poor representative, but Republican politicians are overwhelmingly pro death penalty, anti abortion). A strong case can be made that the people who are executed suffer from severe mental illness and are not capable of telling right from wrong in any true form. Sociopaths who lack the education or means to make it to Wall Street, as it were. Just so you know, I'm not trying to be argumentative to be argumentative. You guys being very polite and I enjoy these conversations =) If you get sick of it, just stop responding, no hard feelings =) EDIT: grammar is hard
- recursive 4y ago
  I'm not sure how that position can be reconciled with "pro-life". It seems like a direct conflict to me. So, I'm agreeing with you about Ducy.