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afaik no smallpox vaccine is currently approved in Switzerland (according to https://www.nau.ch/politik/bundeshaus/affenpocken-swissmedic-hat-impfstoff-nicht-zu

by dthul 4y ago

afaik no smallpox vaccine is currently approved in Switzerland (according to https://www.nau.ch/politik/bundeshaus/affenpocken-swissmedic-hat-impfstoff-nicht-zugelassen-66183103 https://www.nau.ch/politik/bundeshaus/affenpocken-swissmedic...)

nix23 4y ago
Why do you link a monkeypox article? That is smallpox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox And that's the vaccine in 1980: https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co148656/smallpox-vaccine-berne-switzerland-1980-vaccine-smallpox https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co14865... Your article means that the smallpox vaccine is not approved for monkeypox...please read at least your article. https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten-im-ueberblick/variola.html https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten... >>Unser Land verfügt zudem über einen Notfallplan (Isolierung der Erkrankten, Quarantäne, Impfung exponierter Personen und Dekontamination von Gegenständen) sowie über eine genügende Menge eines Pockenimpfstoffes der 1. Generation, der für die Impfung einzelner Bevölkerungsgruppen bis hin zur Gesamtbevölkerung ausreicht. Zudem werden derzeit antivirale Medikamente entwickelt. >>Our country also has an emergency plan (isolation of the sick, quarantine, vaccination of exposed persons and decontamination of objects) and a sufficient quantity of a 1st generation smallpox vaccine for vaccination of individual population groups up to the entire population. In addition, antiviral drugs are currently being developed.
- dthul 4y ago
  Because the article talks about the theoretical effectiveness of smallpox vaccines against monkeypox but that no vaccine (smallpox or monkeypox) is currently approved in Switzerland (the smallpox vaccine was approved in the past but is not anymore since its eradication)
  - nix23 4y ago
    Vaccine does not need to be re-approved. If it is approved it stays like that, if nothing happens, but it's not approved for monkey-pox. And this is the vaccine: Smallpox (J07BX) https://www.swissmedic.ch/dam/swissmedic/de/dokumente/marktueberwachung/vigilance/zusammenfassung_zudeninderschweizgemeldetenunerwuenschtenereigni.pdf.download.pdf/zusammenfassung_zudeninderschweizgemeldetenunerwuenschtenereigni.pdf https://www.swissmedic.ch/dam/swissmedic/de/dokumente/marktu... The smallpox vaccine is still administered (but not mandatory anymore) and that report is from 2015, it's about side effect from vaccines. Side Effects = administered And why is that if it is "eradicated"? https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/28/smallpox-could-return-years-after-eradication/?sh=7fb660c332bf https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/28/smallpox-co... >>Ein Heilmittel gegen die Pocken existiert nicht. Lediglich eine vorbeugende Schutzimpfung ist möglich. >>There is no cure for smallpox. Only preventive vaccination is possible. https://tropeninstitut.de/krankheiten-a-z/pocken https://tropeninstitut.de/krankheiten-a-z/pocken A friend of mine got one ~2 years ago for traveling to Mongolia.
    - dthul 4y ago
      So what it boils down to: The old (1st generation) vaccine is still being held in storage but currently not available to the general public (says https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten-im-ueberblick/variola.html https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten..., FAQ number 10). It could be made available in case of an outbreak. There is no approval for any of the more modern vaccines.
- dthul 4y ago
  > please read at least your article Please refrain from accusations of someone not having read the article, it's unconstructive and against site guidelines. I don't know how you come up with a different reading of the nau.ch article. It states (even though it's an inaccuracy as there are still some 1st generation vaccines available as we figured out): "Der Pockenimpfstoff gilt als erster der Geschichte. Nur nützt das die Schweiz in der aktuellen Situation mit immer mehr Fällen von Affenpocken nicht. Denn hierzulande ist kein Impfstoff zugelassen."

by dthul 4y ago

nix23 4y ago

Why do you link a monkeypox article? That is smallpox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox And that's the vaccine in 1980: https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co148656/smallpox-vaccine-berne-switzerland-1980-vaccine-smallpox https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co14865... Your article means that the smallpox vaccine is not approved for monkeypox...please read at least your article. https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten-im-ueberblick/variola.html https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten... >>Unser Land verfügt zudem über einen Notfallplan (Isolierung der Erkrankten, Quarantäne, Impfung exponierter Personen und Dekontamination von Gegenständen) sowie über eine genügende Menge eines Pockenimpfstoffes der 1. Generation, der für die Impfung einzelner Bevölkerungsgruppen bis hin zur Gesamtbevölkerung ausreicht. Zudem werden derzeit antivirale Medikamente entwickelt. >>Our country also has an emergency plan (isolation of the sick, quarantine, vaccination of exposed persons and decontamination of objects) and a sufficient quantity of a 1st generation smallpox vaccine for vaccination of individual population groups up to the entire population. In addition, antiviral drugs are currently being developed.

dthul 4y ago
Because the article talks about the theoretical effectiveness of smallpox vaccines against monkeypox but that no vaccine (smallpox or monkeypox) is currently approved in Switzerland (the smallpox vaccine was approved in the past but is not anymore since its eradication)
- nix23 4y ago
  Vaccine does not need to be re-approved. If it is approved it stays like that, if nothing happens, but it's not approved for monkey-pox. And this is the vaccine: Smallpox (J07BX) https://www.swissmedic.ch/dam/swissmedic/de/dokumente/marktueberwachung/vigilance/zusammenfassung_zudeninderschweizgemeldetenunerwuenschtenereigni.pdf.download.pdf/zusammenfassung_zudeninderschweizgemeldetenunerwuenschtenereigni.pdf https://www.swissmedic.ch/dam/swissmedic/de/dokumente/marktu... The smallpox vaccine is still administered (but not mandatory anymore) and that report is from 2015, it's about side effect from vaccines. Side Effects = administered And why is that if it is "eradicated"? https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/28/smallpox-could-return-years-after-eradication/?sh=7fb660c332bf https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/28/smallpox-co... >>Ein Heilmittel gegen die Pocken existiert nicht. Lediglich eine vorbeugende Schutzimpfung ist möglich. >>There is no cure for smallpox. Only preventive vaccination is possible. https://tropeninstitut.de/krankheiten-a-z/pocken https://tropeninstitut.de/krankheiten-a-z/pocken A friend of mine got one ~2 years ago for traveling to Mongolia.
  - dthul 4y ago
    So what it boils down to: The old (1st generation) vaccine is still being held in storage but currently not available to the general public (says https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten-im-ueberblick/variola.html https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/krankheiten..., FAQ number 10). It could be made available in case of an outbreak. There is no approval for any of the more modern vaccines.
dthul 4y ago
> please read at least your article Please refrain from accusations of someone not having read the article, it's unconstructive and against site guidelines. I don't know how you come up with a different reading of the nau.ch article. It states (even though it's an inaccuracy as there are still some 1st generation vaccines available as we figured out): "Der Pockenimpfstoff gilt als erster der Geschichte. Nur nützt das die Schweiz in der aktuellen Situation mit immer mehr Fällen von Affenpocken nicht. Denn hierzulande ist kein Impfstoff zugelassen."