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From a Swedish perspective this is probably a "varsel" which is prior notice that they intend to do layoffs. You can't just fire people in Sweden so this is a f
by nisse2000 4y ago
From a Swedish perspective this is probably a "varsel" which is prior notice that they intend to do layoffs. You can't just fire people in Sweden so this is a first step. They have to give notice that they intent to layoff people to the different unions and then start the process. In other countries where they operate it's probably very different?
My guess is it will vary a lot how they do this because of first-in-first-out rules in Sweden they will have to get around to be able to layoff the people they want. I agree with the general sentiment though that the language is a bit vague, but this is a partial reason I think.
- Raminj95 4y agoWhat is the first in first out rule? Does it mean that the people that joined the latest will be the first ones to go? And also is this a law or something that usually happens but not necessarily? Asking because I work in Sweden and I was not aware of something like this.
- tilt_error 4y ago(S)he was wrong. There is no first-in-first-out principle in Sweden, neither by law nor by practice. Instead the last to enter _may_ be the first to leave, but the employer can choose to withhold two persons. Also, this arithmetic is determined per "office" so depending on how you organise the workforce you can, at least in principle and to some degree, select who has to go.
- nisse2000 4y agoYes last-in-first out. My guess here is that they need to figure the points out that you mention so it's hard to say "we're letting X amount of people go".
- Ekaros 4y agoFrom Finnish perspective. "Impacted" might also mean role change. That is you are moved to new role or there is some type of other reorganization potentially, not just laid off or mandatory leave...
- cwzwarich 4y ago> first-in-first-out rules in Sweden I don't know anything about Swedish labor law, but wouldn't it be LIFO rather than FIFO?
- Cederfjard 4y agoYes, you’re correct.
- nisse2000 4y agoSorry yes LIFO
- rbrtdrmpc- 4y agoAs one of the candidates to being lay off, not everyone is covered by Swedish law, and in my situation I’ll be completely under the scope of being impacted, which sadness me because the overall experience with the company was the best I ever had. Fucking hell I’m actually pissed.
- CogitoCogito 4y agoYou a consultant? Or on probation? Or in another region?
- rbrtdrmpc- 4y agoProbation and in another region, though I was lucky enough to be in a core team and I was not impacted, it sadnesses me knowing about anyone else not as lucky as me.