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I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]
- mindcrime 4y agoLink to the paper at NASA's NTRS: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980227091 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980227091
- curiousgal 4y agoThanks, the tone of voice in the video was very reminiscent of those ASMR videos which I abhor.
- mindcrime 4y agoYeah, I've often wondered if that's her normal speaking voice, or if she adopts that particular tone just for her videos.
- noizejoy 4y agoI also wonder what the correlation might be, between such “wondering” about somebody’s speaking voice and the gender of the speaker.
- mindcrime 4y agoI don't know. I can off-hand think of exactly two Youtubers that I am familiar with, who frequently get comments about how their voice would make good ASMR audio, etc. One is male (the guy from Far North Bushcraft and Survival) and the other is female (Tibees). shrug
- noizejoy 4y agoThis parent comment didn’t seem to be an obvious complimentary comment, like the one’s you’re referencing.
- cryptonector 4y agoI don't see how you get that. Some people do adopt a particular voice when they narrate, and it's neither a good thing nor a bad thing, but it can be interesting.
- ARandomerDude 4y agoRight. If you've ever thought somebody sounded weird it's because you're a biggot/racist/sexist/homophobe/other-insult-here and it definitely could not possibly be that the person just sounded a bit strange to you.
- curiousgal 4y agoThe funny part is that I'm a woman myself haha I guess I'm a misogynist!
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y agoInternalized oppression!
- noizejoy 4y agoIn my own experience (and being male), I’ve found myself compelled to remind women team members not to be more critical (and/or less forgiving) of each other than they are of male colleagues. Because it happened somewhat regularly.
- noizejoy 4y agoIt’s less about the thinking and more about the unfiltered blurting out such (when they are personal and/or unkind) thoughts in public.
- mattofak 4y agoWhile the work itself is interesting, I'm also super curious to know how this was typeset. Did NASA have special typewriters with common math symbols, or go through some office with a Linotype or early digital typesetter, or something else?
- jhfdbkofdchk 4y agoI don't know how NASA did it, but in the 60s and 70s the IBM Selectric typewriters had those replaceable balls and you could swap one in with special math symbols on it. https://www.duxburysystems.org/downloads/library/texas/apple/cnthesis/selectric.htm https://www.duxburysystems.org/downloads/library/texas/apple... https://mathoverflow.net/questions/19930/writing-papers-in-pre-latex-era https://mathoverflow.net/questions/19930/writing-papers-in-p...
- mindcrime 4y agoHeh, that's a really interesting question. It's easy to forget that not everybody lived in the world of PC's running TeX / LaTeX, and Postscript enabled laser printers, etc. I have no idea how math got typeset back in those days... I'm too young to have any appreciation for that era in that regard.
- bombcar 4y agoTeX was specifically written because Knuth was unhappy when his books went from being delicately hand-set by someone to being produced by a computer.
- ncphil 4y agoIt was the transition of commercial printing technology from "hot lead" typesetting machines (big brothers of the Linotype beasts I helped maintain while in college) to photo-offset, during which the fonts Knuth loved got "left behind" (as so often happens as proprietary tech evolves), that led him to write his own typesetting system. In the early 90s I used both vde with troff and TeX through grad school on a Kaypro 1 running CP/M. TeX was definitely the superior system for the kind of research papers I was writing (Chicago Style cites, mixed Latin and Greek text, annotated bibliographies).
- avgcorrection 4y ago“Actual” is such a weird word. From the title it sounds like it is going to contrast what people think is this person's work with what they actually did. Maybe to make a point that they did less work themselves than people assume or think. But it seems that “actual” in this case means that they wrote down the calculations on the paper that the video author has in their hands. (I'm gonna assume that this is the original pamphlet and not a copy, of course.)
- mindcrime 4y agoI think the "actual" here means something like "in contrast to the movie Hidden Figures, which gives only a superficial view of what Katherine Johnson actually did". So instead of a few minutes in a movie with some equations scribbled on a blackboard, this is the actual work in context.
- avgcorrection 4y agoThanks. That makes sense.
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- kupopuffs 4y agoI think it makes it sound cool, like this is ACTUALLY her work, awesome!
- dang 4y agoWe've actually taken it out of the title above now.
- TedShiller 4y agoThis work was done by a team of people. This is commonly misattributed to a single person.
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- dev_tty01 4y agoYou don't seem to understand the history of the time. There are two names on the report. There was very little, if any, political support at that time for giving her "extra" credit. The more likely scenario is that she should have been first author. That sort of thing happened a lot.
- causi 4y agoI believe they meant misattributed in modern media, not while she was working.
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- HL33tibCe7 4y agoYou’re right, I was thinking of a different case. Should have read the article before commenting
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- jonnybgood 4y agoWhat are you referencing? The paper in the video has two authors. Johnson's name wasn't going to be on it. Initially, it was going to be misattributed to one person who was not Johnson.
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- readams 4y agoAn article that discusses attribution for the paper: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/08/30/katherine-johnson-fought-to-get-credit-for-her-work/?sh=d4708a4597e4 https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/08/30/katherine... 'As Johnson later recalled, "Finally, Ted told him, 'Katherine should finish the report, she's done most of the work anyway.' So Ted left Pearson with no choice; I finished the report and my name went on it, and that was the first time a woman in our division had her name on something."'
- reactspa 4y ago> Johnson showed strong mathematical abilities from an early age. Because Greenbrier County did not offer public schooling for African-American students past the eighth grade... [1] The struggle is real. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson#Early_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson#Early_life
- Thermosetty 4y agoIt definitely makes you wonder how many brilliant Black minds were/are wasted due to conditions imposed on them by racism/ws.
- Breza 4y agoI've thought about this. The United States was the world leader in science and technology in the 20th century. Imagine how much farther we would be right now if more Black Americans had been in PhD programs instead of trying to avoid being murdered.
- oboes 4y agoAlthough I know Katherine Johnson was African-American, by looking at pictures of her [1] she actually looks white-skinned to me. Was she considered of black ancestry because of the "one-drop rule" in the USA at the time? Or maybe she was more dark-skinned in her youth and it's only in recent color photographs that she looks white? Honest question, as here in Europe that woman would be considered "white" if judging from her physical appearance alone. Although I know that there is more than skin color to the American concept of "race". [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Katherine_Johnson_medal.jpeg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Katherin...
- neilv 4y agoI liked this film dramatization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Figures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Figures