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>"So this is essentially criminalizing being mentally ill." Institutionalizing the kinds of severely mentally ill people who would benefit most from this kind

>"So this is essentially criminalizing being mentally ill." Institutionalizing the kinds of severely mentally ill people who would benefit most from this kind of care is practically impossible, thanks to efforts from civil rights activists decades ago. Resources to help homeless with mental illness exist, but sadly these programs are all voluntary and have no real way to make someone follow through with treatment.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
It was not the fault of the civil rights activists. The institution were closed because they were gulags and torture centers. I should have a choice of entering a health care facility if that health care facility is mistreating patients. The civil rights activists helped us. It was the states and U.S. Government that failed us by not providing alternative care. I was literally tortured in a privately run psychiatric hospital three years ago that I was forced to stay in for 10 days because of a misunderstanding. 10 days is the maximum Disability will pay for inpatient. Suddenly after 10 days I was better even thought I was fine on the first. I spoke to a doctor twice for a total of 10 minutes they whole stay. We are not stupid, the system and society treats us like garbage. And when we just want to be left alone and be simple and free they pass laws and raise prices on everything.
meetups323 4y ago
See "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and give proper thanks to the civil rights activists. At no point in history have we ever had a mental illness treatment doctrine that we can look back on and say "that was a good thing we did, go us". I happen to believe that the present day will be viewed upon no more favorably, what with our pills by the pocket-full and unregulated medical advertisements on social media. (Instagram sponsored content would seem to have the whole world believing they are in desperate need of antidepressants and Adderall, paid for by... the shillers of antidepressants and Adderall, how interesting.)
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  Yes, Kesey's masterpiece could be remade today and would not be any less true. WhenI was in patient I had a nurse stealing my Klonopin telling me I had already taken it. When I told my lawyer she was gone the next day. The fact that I could not get my doctors to look at my mental illness as an immune disorder (even after I was diagnosed with Lupus) as being the cause of my mood disorder tells you everything about how ignorant practical care is for the mentally ill. I just had a psychotic break after catching COVID as well. Mental Illnesses are immune disorders.
- edmcnulty101 4y ago
  I'm a fan of government availability not government enforcement. These things aren't even available to people if they want them.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago

It was not the fault of the civil rights activists. The institution were closed because they were gulags and torture centers. I should have a choice of entering a health care facility if that health care facility is mistreating patients. The civil rights activists helped us. It was the states and U.S. Government that failed us by not providing alternative care. I was literally tortured in a privately run psychiatric hospital three years ago that I was forced to stay in for 10 days because of a misunderstanding. 10 days is the maximum Disability will pay for inpatient. Suddenly after 10 days I was better even thought I was fine on the first. I spoke to a doctor twice for a total of 10 minutes they whole stay. We are not stupid, the system and society treats us like garbage. And when we just want to be left alone and be simple and free they pass laws and raise prices on everything.

meetups323 4y ago

See "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and give proper thanks to the civil rights activists. At no point in history have we ever had a mental illness treatment doctrine that we can look back on and say "that was a good thing we did, go us". I happen to believe that the present day will be viewed upon no more favorably, what with our pills by the pocket-full and unregulated medical advertisements on social media. (Instagram sponsored content would seem to have the whole world believing they are in desperate need of antidepressants and Adderall, paid for by... the shillers of antidepressants and Adderall, how interesting.)

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
Yes, Kesey's masterpiece could be remade today and would not be any less true. WhenI was in patient I had a nurse stealing my Klonopin telling me I had already taken it. When I told my lawyer she was gone the next day. The fact that I could not get my doctors to look at my mental illness as an immune disorder (even after I was diagnosed with Lupus) as being the cause of my mood disorder tells you everything about how ignorant practical care is for the mentally ill. I just had a psychotic break after catching COVID as well. Mental Illnesses are immune disorders.
edmcnulty101 4y ago
I'm a fan of government availability not government enforcement. These things aren't even available to people if they want them.