I feel like we're just spinning in circles trying to define "fast" and what speeds are "acceptable" when the main point was: > SPAs for offline support and MPA

I feel like we're just spinning in circles trying to define "fast" and what speeds are "acceptable" when the main point was: > SPAs for offline support and MPAs for everything else You could build MPAs that offer offline support (and I have) but I find that you spend a lot of time writing the same render logic twice. Things might be different now with Next/Nuxt but when you're using PHP or C# it sucks to write the view render logic twice.