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I don't know about such deals, but isn't 52k like nothing for such agreement? It's close to free support.

throwaway2037 4y ago
Honestly, I'm not sure, but it is a worthy question. I quickly searched that doc: It is the only "Support Contract" entry. I sincerely hope they get more.
johanj 4y ago
The contract details are outlined in the blog post. Depending on the number of hours worked to fix some issues, it is likely fair. > Contract terms were roughly as follows: > * Uber reports issues to github.com/ziglang/zig and pings Loris. > * Loris assigns it to someone in ZSF. > * Hack hack hack hack hack. > * When done, Loris enters the number of hours worked on the issue. > > Uber has a right to ZSF members’ time. We have no decision or voting power whatsoever with regards to Zig. We have right to offer suggestions, but they have been and will be treated just like from any other third-party bystander. We did not ask for special rights, it’s explicit in the contract, and we don’t want that.
- 2c2c2c 4y ago
  Does this mean 52k upfront + (hour rate) * hours? If not, how much "time" of ZSF does Uber own?
nicoburns 4y ago
Presumably that depends on how support that contract covers, and over what time period. If it covers 1 hour/month over a monthly time period it's a huge amount. If it cover 40 hours/month over a yearly time period then it's a pretty small amount given the usual rates for such services (although still more than some people make for that amount of work).
orthoxerox 4y ago
It's a 52k bonus for basically doing what you're already doing.
- kevincox 4y ago
  Exact. It is money to fix bugs. Presumably these bugs would be desirable to fix anyways, this just changes the priority. Unless the reported bugs are not really bugs or the reports of of very low quality there appears to be little downside for what could potentially pay for a full-time dev.
- TheSoftwareGuy 4y ago
  It is $52k to prioritize bugs which Uber reports to be impacted by, ahead of other bugs
cortesoft 4y ago
It's impossible to tell without details of what the support agreement includes. My large company has support contracts with a lot of vendors, and many of them are for way less than $52k
radiator 4y ago
No, actually 52800 US dollars is a lot different than nothing.
- girvo 4y ago
  It's nothing to Uber, but its a lot more than nothing to the ZSF, would be my thoughts on it.
coldtea 4y ago
Considering that most companies give zero, nada, shit, to open source projects they heavily use and even base their systems on, no it's not "close to free". It's closer to the cost of a part-time developer for a full year.

throwaway2037 4y ago

Honestly, I'm not sure, but it is a worthy question. I quickly searched that doc: It is the only "Support Contract" entry. I sincerely hope they get more.

johanj 4y ago

The contract details are outlined in the blog post. Depending on the number of hours worked to fix some issues, it is likely fair. > Contract terms were roughly as follows: > * Uber reports issues to github.com/ziglang/zig and pings Loris. > * Loris assigns it to someone in ZSF. > * Hack hack hack hack hack. > * When done, Loris enters the number of hours worked on the issue. > > Uber has a right to ZSF members’ time. We have no decision or voting power whatsoever with regards to Zig. We have right to offer suggestions, but they have been and will be treated just like from any other third-party bystander. We did not ask for special rights, it’s explicit in the contract, and we don’t want that.

2c2c2c 4y ago
Does this mean 52k upfront + (hour rate) * hours? If not, how much "time" of ZSF does Uber own?

nicoburns 4y ago

Presumably that depends on how support that contract covers, and over what time period. If it covers 1 hour/month over a monthly time period it's a huge amount. If it cover 40 hours/month over a yearly time period then it's a pretty small amount given the usual rates for such services (although still more than some people make for that amount of work).

orthoxerox 4y ago

It's a 52k bonus for basically doing what you're already doing.

kevincox 4y ago
Exact. It is money to fix bugs. Presumably these bugs would be desirable to fix anyways, this just changes the priority. Unless the reported bugs are not really bugs or the reports of of very low quality there appears to be little downside for what could potentially pay for a full-time dev.
TheSoftwareGuy 4y ago
It is $52k to prioritize bugs which Uber reports to be impacted by, ahead of other bugs

cortesoft 4y ago

It's impossible to tell without details of what the support agreement includes. My large company has support contracts with a lot of vendors, and many of them are for way less than $52k

radiator 4y ago

No, actually 52800 US dollars is a lot different than nothing.

girvo 4y ago
It's nothing to Uber, but its a lot more than nothing to the ZSF, would be my thoughts on it.

coldtea 4y ago

Considering that most companies give zero, nada, shit, to open source projects they heavily use and even base their systems on, no it's not "close to free". It's closer to the cost of a part-time developer for a full year.