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> What does being "behind" even mean? Or matter? Is extending parental dependency the problem? If someone starts college at 20 instead of 18 they are likely a

> What does being "behind" even mean? Or matter? Is extending parental dependency the problem? If someone starts college at 20 instead of 18 they are likely at home longer. But a lot of people aren't leaving home for college anyway, or they return home after college whether they graduate or not. If a bunch of kids start high school at 16 instead of 14 is it going to cause serious problems? It seems to me the only issues would be those that we create by our own expectations.

jdmichal 4y ago
There would be huge capacity problems associated with combining entire years of students. Many teachers, classrooms, and entire schools are already on the edge of overcapacity.
dncornholio 4y ago
Absolutely. If everyone is behind, are you?
- Jensson 4y ago
  If everyone is behind then society is behind. It isn't a problem for society if one kid is behind, but it starts to be a problem when millions of kids are behind.
  - guidoism 4y ago
    I would like to bring up the question again of “compared to what?” Are the metrics: 1. Based on university entrance (in which case you need to recourse and ask the same questions of that) or 2. Based on some pragmatic list of things that will help the child become a good part of society or 3. Completely arbitrary.
leksak 4y ago
You don't imagine being two years older than the majority of your classmates at that time is going to have immediate effects on their social life at that time or that employers in the future will note that they graduated later in life and thus pass them over for a different candidate?
- rkk3 4y ago
  > or that employers in the future will note that they graduated later in life and thus pass them over for a different candidate? How would a potential employer know they were graduating college at 24 vs 22, and without knowing the reason for the difference why would they care. "I'm afraid we can't hire you at FAANG, it seems you had to repeat the first grade 15 years ago."
  - leksak 4y ago
    I was thinking more about graduating high school. At least in my country that is something you'd put on your resume. A FAANG probably wouldn't care either way, but a Fortune 500 might, and numerous other places of employment might also pick the person that graduated "on time" if most other things are equal between two candidates. _If_ they knew the reason it might matter less, but not all employers will take the time to figure out what the reason was, and not all reasons are necessarily something you'd want to share and offer up freely because it might be very personal. They'd have to trust the reason given as well. A person that graduated on time presents no such hassle, or unknowns. I'm not saying it is correct to do this, it's just what I _imagine_ is likely to happen given how people tend to sometimes judge people on other inconsequential stuff.
    - rkk3 4y ago
      For college graduates in the US, high school is typically not something included on your resume. The only time it'd makes sense to include is if it's a flex, like if you went to Philips Academy or somewhere "special".

jdmichal 4y ago

There would be huge capacity problems associated with combining entire years of students. Many teachers, classrooms, and entire schools are already on the edge of overcapacity.

dncornholio 4y ago

Absolutely. If everyone is behind, are you?

Jensson 4y ago
If everyone is behind then society is behind. It isn't a problem for society if one kid is behind, but it starts to be a problem when millions of kids are behind.
- guidoism 4y ago
  I would like to bring up the question again of “compared to what?” Are the metrics: 1. Based on university entrance (in which case you need to recourse and ask the same questions of that) or 2. Based on some pragmatic list of things that will help the child become a good part of society or 3. Completely arbitrary.

leksak 4y ago

You don't imagine being two years older than the majority of your classmates at that time is going to have immediate effects on their social life at that time or that employers in the future will note that they graduated later in life and thus pass them over for a different candidate?

rkk3 4y ago
> or that employers in the future will note that they graduated later in life and thus pass them over for a different candidate? How would a potential employer know they were graduating college at 24 vs 22, and without knowing the reason for the difference why would they care. "I'm afraid we can't hire you at FAANG, it seems you had to repeat the first grade 15 years ago."
- leksak 4y ago
  I was thinking more about graduating high school. At least in my country that is something you'd put on your resume. A FAANG probably wouldn't care either way, but a Fortune 500 might, and numerous other places of employment might also pick the person that graduated "on time" if most other things are equal between two candidates. _If_ they knew the reason it might matter less, but not all employers will take the time to figure out what the reason was, and not all reasons are necessarily something you'd want to share and offer up freely because it might be very personal. They'd have to trust the reason given as well. A person that graduated on time presents no such hassle, or unknowns. I'm not saying it is correct to do this, it's just what I _imagine_ is likely to happen given how people tend to sometimes judge people on other inconsequential stuff.
  - rkk3 4y ago
    For college graduates in the US, high school is typically not something included on your resume. The only time it'd makes sense to include is if it's a flex, like if you went to Philips Academy or somewhere "special".